YOUR theories
YOUR theories
We all know the theory that Wim and this website think is true. Of course, that is the one involving James Files. Wim has also amassed a ton of other great information regarding the assassination and who might ultimately been involved. I largely agree with Wim's assertions. But what about the rest of you? What are your particular theories? Was Files involved? Why or why not? Was Oswald a shooter, or even a participant? Who were the other participants or shooters? Who was part of the conspiracy that led to the assassination? Was Badgeman a REAL theory? Try to address questions like that. Or questions of your own. There are no wrong answers here. That is why we have this forum to discuss things like this.
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Billy Boggs
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Abraham Zapruder is not the man you think.
Consider:Abraham Zapruder-White Russian affiliation, 32nd degree Mason, active MEMBER of 2 CIA Proprietary Organizations: The Dallas Council On World Affairs and The Crusade For A Free Europe;These two organizations were CIA (backed) Domestic Operations in Dallas whose membership included:Abraham Zapruder, Clint Murchison (owner of the Dallas Cowboys at that time) , Mr. Byrd, (owner of the Texas School Book Depository), Sarah Hughes, who swore LBJ in as the 36th President while Air Force One was still on the ground in Dallas, George DeMohrenschildt, (CIA contract agent AND best friend of LHO), George Bush (also close friend of George DeMohrenschildt), Neil Mallon, (mentor that Bush named his son, Neil, after), H.L. Hunt, & Demitri Von Mohrenschildt (George D's brother).In 1953 and 1954 a woman named, Jeanne LeGon worked SIDE by SIDE with Abraham Zapruder at a high end clothing design firm called, Nardis of Dallas. Jeanne LeGon designed the clothing and Abraham Zapruder cut the patterns and the material for her.Incidentally, Abraham Zapruder's obituary mis-states the date/year that he departed Nardis of Dallas, incorrectly citing 1949. The correct year was 1959, [the same year that his "partner in design" Jeanne LeGon became known as, Jean LeGon DeMohrenschildt... She had married Lee Oswald's BEST FRIEND (to be), CIA Contract Agent, George DeMohrenschildt!]
http://www.john-f-kennedy.net/amazingwe ... pruder.htm
Consider:Abraham Zapruder-White Russian affiliation, 32nd degree Mason, active MEMBER of 2 CIA Proprietary Organizations: The Dallas Council On World Affairs and The Crusade For A Free Europe;These two organizations were CIA (backed) Domestic Operations in Dallas whose membership included:Abraham Zapruder, Clint Murchison (owner of the Dallas Cowboys at that time) , Mr. Byrd, (owner of the Texas School Book Depository), Sarah Hughes, who swore LBJ in as the 36th President while Air Force One was still on the ground in Dallas, George DeMohrenschildt, (CIA contract agent AND best friend of LHO), George Bush (also close friend of George DeMohrenschildt), Neil Mallon, (mentor that Bush named his son, Neil, after), H.L. Hunt, & Demitri Von Mohrenschildt (George D's brother).In 1953 and 1954 a woman named, Jeanne LeGon worked SIDE by SIDE with Abraham Zapruder at a high end clothing design firm called, Nardis of Dallas. Jeanne LeGon designed the clothing and Abraham Zapruder cut the patterns and the material for her.Incidentally, Abraham Zapruder's obituary mis-states the date/year that he departed Nardis of Dallas, incorrectly citing 1949. The correct year was 1959, [the same year that his "partner in design" Jeanne LeGon became known as, Jean LeGon DeMohrenschildt... She had married Lee Oswald's BEST FRIEND (to be), CIA Contract Agent, George DeMohrenschildt!]
http://www.john-f-kennedy.net/amazingwe ... pruder.htm
As always Billy, you brought something VERY interesting to the table! I will comment further on Zapruder later, but I bet he was filming to cement the evidence that the shot looked like it was from the back (where it was supposed to come from). Unfortunately for him and others involved, something else happened (Jimmy Files' shot). And DO NOT forget that Zapruder gave his film to Time-Life. But WHO owned Time-Life then? Henry Luce. A Bonesman from 1920. Good friends of Prescott Bu$h.
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Billy Boggs
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At any rate, Zapruder is not the meek, mild, just so happened to be there, and secretary had to talk him into bringing his camera to the shooting, savior everyone thinks he is, by filming the event. If anyone with half a brain could open their eyes and look at the film from a realistic point of view, you will see someone who was prepared to hear gun shots, and not loose his focus on his target.
Think for a moment, what should have happened? A camera that went nuts, zipping around looking for the cause of the noise, gunfire, refocus on the car, on other people, or even aimed at the ground in confusion momentarily. In stead what you see is a trained cinematographer keeping the target in focus just as he was trained to do, ignoring those nasty gun shots. He knew what was going to transpire, you can see it in his film.
This is close to what you would expect to see
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7y6hZCJr ... re=related
Think for a moment, what should have happened? A camera that went nuts, zipping around looking for the cause of the noise, gunfire, refocus on the car, on other people, or even aimed at the ground in confusion momentarily. In stead what you see is a trained cinematographer keeping the target in focus just as he was trained to do, ignoring those nasty gun shots. He knew what was going to transpire, you can see it in his film.
This is close to what you would expect to see
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7y6hZCJr ... re=related
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Ricky Clow
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Zapruder
That is very interesting. I am currently reading a book just on the Zapruder Film. It does and did seem odd to me that his film is the only one that shows the assassination from start to finish. Zapruder's account of the assassination is a little rugged as well, he said that he didn't want to stand on the cement block because of some illness or something and that he would probably fall off. But he secretary said that she would hold onto him. And when he sold the film the next morning he pretty much sold to the first man who came to his office, he said this because the man hadn't bothered him the day before and that he seemed like a nice fellow. But thinking that the day before Zapruder was saying that he was going to sell his film to the highest bidder, and then he sells it to the first guy who gives him 125,000$ and I'm sure that he could have gotten a lot more then that from the guys. It's also weird that the film was locked away from the public for so long but there were boot-leg copies all over the place being showed and even being showed on a TV show in the 70's by Robert Groden and Time/Life had a copyright on the film and said that they would to the 100% support in getting all the money in that they should get from others showing the film but they very rarely did anything about it, and if you had good enough sources than you could get a boot-leg copy from time/life themselves.
Now on the other hand about what I think happened...I don't really know, I know for sure that there was a conspiracy. Sometime you look at things and some of the theories and say "what are these people thinking?" I don't think that it was a really vast conspiracy, as it would be hard to keep the whole thing covered up this entire time. Sometimes I just want to believe that Oswald did it just so I can say that was that. But the single bullet theory just screws it up along with the Zapruder film, if Zapruder was involved in the conspiracy then they would have been better off without the film as there would be a lot more evidence gone to prove conspiracy. The thing is that why would the government say Oswald had such as shit ass weapon? they should have been smarter, see if I was framing him I would set him up with an M1-Garand Rifle. It makes a lot more sense, it was the weapon he was trained with during his time with the Marines, he wasn't to bad with it, it was a reliable gun, and it was semi-automatic. It had an eight round magazine and you could pull off the shots as fast as you could pull the trigger. And the funny thing is that the M1 was in the same mail order catalogue that he ordered his Carcano out of in fact it was on the same page just beside it, although it was a bit more as the Carcano was $12.78 and the M1 $78.78, if you knew that you were going to pull off an assassination, although when purchasing the gun he "didn't know" that he was going to shoot the President, he I think at that time knew that he wanted to "kill" Walker. I'm kind of sounding like a lone-nut theorist but I'm not. It just messes me up a lot and makes me wish that Kennedy would have never went to Texas. All though they would have gotten him somewhere else......But it is an important piece of history and the truth needs to be found out.
Now on the other hand about what I think happened...I don't really know, I know for sure that there was a conspiracy. Sometime you look at things and some of the theories and say "what are these people thinking?" I don't think that it was a really vast conspiracy, as it would be hard to keep the whole thing covered up this entire time. Sometimes I just want to believe that Oswald did it just so I can say that was that. But the single bullet theory just screws it up along with the Zapruder film, if Zapruder was involved in the conspiracy then they would have been better off without the film as there would be a lot more evidence gone to prove conspiracy. The thing is that why would the government say Oswald had such as shit ass weapon? they should have been smarter, see if I was framing him I would set him up with an M1-Garand Rifle. It makes a lot more sense, it was the weapon he was trained with during his time with the Marines, he wasn't to bad with it, it was a reliable gun, and it was semi-automatic. It had an eight round magazine and you could pull off the shots as fast as you could pull the trigger. And the funny thing is that the M1 was in the same mail order catalogue that he ordered his Carcano out of in fact it was on the same page just beside it, although it was a bit more as the Carcano was $12.78 and the M1 $78.78, if you knew that you were going to pull off an assassination, although when purchasing the gun he "didn't know" that he was going to shoot the President, he I think at that time knew that he wanted to "kill" Walker. I'm kind of sounding like a lone-nut theorist but I'm not. It just messes me up a lot and makes me wish that Kennedy would have never went to Texas. All though they would have gotten him somewhere else......But it is an important piece of history and the truth needs to be found out.
All points made here are welcome Ricky. I wish more young people like yourself would care more about things like the JFK assassination. By the way, I am also upset the the Tampa Bay Lightning traded away Brad Richards, who comes from your home town. He is a MONEY player that will probably help Dallas (irony) win the Stanley Cup.
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Ricky Clow
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Ricky Clow
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Connolly
This is an interesting interview, I'd say that he is still in Parkland. He says the Kennedy was hit then he was hit.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=cP04_lGjkO0&feature=related
http://youtube.com/watch?v=cP04_lGjkO0&feature=related
To me, Connally was involved somehow as well in this. He was connected to LBJ, plus he ends up working in the NIXON White House. I believe that BOTH LBJ and Nixon were part of the conspiracy. But the Zapruder information brought by Billy, is VERY interesting. The connections there are unbelievable.
These two organizations were CIA (backed) Domestic Operations in Dallas whose membership included:
Abraham Zapruder, Clint Murchison (owner of the Dallas Cowboys at that time) , Mr. D. H. Byrd, (owner of the Texas School Book Depository), Sarah Hughes, who swore LBJ in as the 36th President while Air Force One was still on the ground in Dallas, George DeMohrenschildt, (CIA contract agent AND best friend of LHO), George Bush (also close friend of George DeMohrenschildt), Neil Mallon, (mentor that Bush named his son, Neil, after), H.L. Hunt, & Demitri Von Mohrenschildt (George D's brother). In 1953 and 1954 a woman named, Jeanne LeGon worked SIDE by SIDE with Abraham Zapruder at a high end clothing design firm called, Nardis of Dallas. Jeanne LeGon designed the clothing and Abraham Zapruder cut the patterns and the material for her. Incidentally, Abraham Zapruder's obituary mis-states the date/year that he departed Nardis of Dallas, incorrectly citing 1949. The correct year was 1959, [the same year that his "partner in design" Jeanne LeGon became known as, Jean LeGon DeMohrenschildt... She had married Lee Oswald's BEST FRIEND (to be), CIA Contract Agent, George DeMohrenschildt!]
Plus you have this...
By the way, D.H. Byrd also was the founder of the Louisiana Civil Air Patrol. Members include Lee Harvey Oswald, David Ferrie, Charles Rogers (one of the three tramps), James R. Bath (Dumbya Bush's buddy in the Texas Air National Guard and the bin Laden family money man in Texas) and Barry Seal, who was the CIA's biggest drug runner of all-time and who was murdered with Poppy Bush's telephone number in his car.
And this...
In the 1950's Prescott Bush and the Harrimans are the founding fathers of CBS. In 1963, CBS reporter Dan Rather makes his career break with the Kennedy Assassination by lying to the American public that he sees JFK's head move violently FORWARD on the Zapruder film. The lie is possible, because the Zapruder film was bought by Time Life and kept lock and barrel from the public for 14 years. Time Life is founded and owned by Henry Luce, also a member of Skull and Bones. Luce had many friends, among them general Edward Lansdale, a known covert operative for the CIA. Henry's wife, Clare Booth Luce, Congresswoman, is a radical supporter of the Anti-Castro movement and personal friends with another high-ranking covert operative for the CIA and a resident from Fort Worth: David Atlee Phillips. Edward Lansdale and David Phillips are widely accepted as key planners of the JFK assassination. They are also exact matches for the "covert operations specialist"(Phillips) and the "top brass in military intelligence from Asia" (Lansdale) as described in Sam Giancana's biography "Double Cross".
And this...
George H.W. Bush failed to disclose his friendship with George De Mohrenschildt, a renowned oil geologist and Lee Harvey Oswald's best friend in Dallas. They knew each other since 1942, probably even longer, because in 1939 he went to work for Humble Oil, a company founded by Prescott Bush. In 1977, when De Mohrenschildt is located by investigators of the House Select Committee on Assassinations, who want to interview him, he allegedly commits suicide the following day. The last person to interview him on the day he died, is Jay Edward Epstein, a writer/historian and a known apologist for the Warren Report since day one. Epstein married a CIA agent and is the biographer of former CIA-director James Jesus Angleton, presumably in charge of Oswald's "defection" to Russia. Interestingly, Epstein is also the "consultant" that was suddenly hired by NBC in 1995, when NBC was making a program for national TV on the confession of James E. Files. The program was promptly cancelled. In De Mohrenschildt's address book a telephone number is found for Bush's oil company Zapata Petroleum, with a further entry for "George Poppy Bush". It is well known that "Poppy" is a nickname for George H.W. Bush to his friends and family. Shortly before, De Mohrenschildt had sent his old friend George, now CIA director, a letter, asking if something could be done about the surveillance and harassment he was lately exposed to. Why would De Mohrenschildt suspect the harassment originated from the CIA? This letter is public domain now, but does not show up in the collections of correspondence that Bush put together in a book as a way of publishing his memoirs. David Atlee Phillips was one of the planning CIA officials in the plot to kill JFK. He was a member of the Dallas Petroleum club, as was George Demohrenschildt and George Bush. All three were CIA, and knew each other. Yet time and again, during the Warren Commission, during the HSCA as a CIA director, and during the Assassinations Records Review Board as President, George Bush keeps his mouth shut about these liaisons, who were both CIA supervisors for Lee Harvey Oswald. Who wants to maintain that George's silence is insignificant?
These two organizations were CIA (backed) Domestic Operations in Dallas whose membership included:
Abraham Zapruder, Clint Murchison (owner of the Dallas Cowboys at that time) , Mr. D. H. Byrd, (owner of the Texas School Book Depository), Sarah Hughes, who swore LBJ in as the 36th President while Air Force One was still on the ground in Dallas, George DeMohrenschildt, (CIA contract agent AND best friend of LHO), George Bush (also close friend of George DeMohrenschildt), Neil Mallon, (mentor that Bush named his son, Neil, after), H.L. Hunt, & Demitri Von Mohrenschildt (George D's brother). In 1953 and 1954 a woman named, Jeanne LeGon worked SIDE by SIDE with Abraham Zapruder at a high end clothing design firm called, Nardis of Dallas. Jeanne LeGon designed the clothing and Abraham Zapruder cut the patterns and the material for her. Incidentally, Abraham Zapruder's obituary mis-states the date/year that he departed Nardis of Dallas, incorrectly citing 1949. The correct year was 1959, [the same year that his "partner in design" Jeanne LeGon became known as, Jean LeGon DeMohrenschildt... She had married Lee Oswald's BEST FRIEND (to be), CIA Contract Agent, George DeMohrenschildt!]
Plus you have this...
By the way, D.H. Byrd also was the founder of the Louisiana Civil Air Patrol. Members include Lee Harvey Oswald, David Ferrie, Charles Rogers (one of the three tramps), James R. Bath (Dumbya Bush's buddy in the Texas Air National Guard and the bin Laden family money man in Texas) and Barry Seal, who was the CIA's biggest drug runner of all-time and who was murdered with Poppy Bush's telephone number in his car.
And this...
In the 1950's Prescott Bush and the Harrimans are the founding fathers of CBS. In 1963, CBS reporter Dan Rather makes his career break with the Kennedy Assassination by lying to the American public that he sees JFK's head move violently FORWARD on the Zapruder film. The lie is possible, because the Zapruder film was bought by Time Life and kept lock and barrel from the public for 14 years. Time Life is founded and owned by Henry Luce, also a member of Skull and Bones. Luce had many friends, among them general Edward Lansdale, a known covert operative for the CIA. Henry's wife, Clare Booth Luce, Congresswoman, is a radical supporter of the Anti-Castro movement and personal friends with another high-ranking covert operative for the CIA and a resident from Fort Worth: David Atlee Phillips. Edward Lansdale and David Phillips are widely accepted as key planners of the JFK assassination. They are also exact matches for the "covert operations specialist"(Phillips) and the "top brass in military intelligence from Asia" (Lansdale) as described in Sam Giancana's biography "Double Cross".
And this...
George H.W. Bush failed to disclose his friendship with George De Mohrenschildt, a renowned oil geologist and Lee Harvey Oswald's best friend in Dallas. They knew each other since 1942, probably even longer, because in 1939 he went to work for Humble Oil, a company founded by Prescott Bush. In 1977, when De Mohrenschildt is located by investigators of the House Select Committee on Assassinations, who want to interview him, he allegedly commits suicide the following day. The last person to interview him on the day he died, is Jay Edward Epstein, a writer/historian and a known apologist for the Warren Report since day one. Epstein married a CIA agent and is the biographer of former CIA-director James Jesus Angleton, presumably in charge of Oswald's "defection" to Russia. Interestingly, Epstein is also the "consultant" that was suddenly hired by NBC in 1995, when NBC was making a program for national TV on the confession of James E. Files. The program was promptly cancelled. In De Mohrenschildt's address book a telephone number is found for Bush's oil company Zapata Petroleum, with a further entry for "George Poppy Bush". It is well known that "Poppy" is a nickname for George H.W. Bush to his friends and family. Shortly before, De Mohrenschildt had sent his old friend George, now CIA director, a letter, asking if something could be done about the surveillance and harassment he was lately exposed to. Why would De Mohrenschildt suspect the harassment originated from the CIA? This letter is public domain now, but does not show up in the collections of correspondence that Bush put together in a book as a way of publishing his memoirs. David Atlee Phillips was one of the planning CIA officials in the plot to kill JFK. He was a member of the Dallas Petroleum club, as was George Demohrenschildt and George Bush. All three were CIA, and knew each other. Yet time and again, during the Warren Commission, during the HSCA as a CIA director, and during the Assassinations Records Review Board as President, George Bush keeps his mouth shut about these liaisons, who were both CIA supervisors for Lee Harvey Oswald. Who wants to maintain that George's silence is insignificant?
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Billy Boggs
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Follow the money.............
For those who know, and those who don't, there is a great conspiracy at work on this planet.
Jack Ruby had personal experience with it, and tried to bring it to light. How many of you listened to what he said?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=we2eucWXqjg
How many of you listened to President Kennedy when he tried to bring it to light, and was killed over it?
http://www.relfe.com/A06/JFK_conspiracy ... speech.mp3
Yes, the conspiracy is so great, and so encompassing, and so "In your face", you cant see it.
Its not the New World Order, its not the Bohemian Grove, its not the Skull & Bones, its not the Jesuits, Its not the Federal Reserve, its not the Builderburgs, Its not the Government of any one country, Its not Freemasonry, its not the higher learning institutions, Its not aliens from outer space. All of these things were created for your amusement and detraction. Do you find this unbelievable?
If you look very, very closely at Abraham Zapruder, Jack Ruby, and the Bosch family, oh I'm sorry, Bush family you will find the strings that lead to the truth.
For those who know, and those who don't, there is a great conspiracy at work on this planet.
Jack Ruby had personal experience with it, and tried to bring it to light. How many of you listened to what he said?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=we2eucWXqjg
How many of you listened to President Kennedy when he tried to bring it to light, and was killed over it?
http://www.relfe.com/A06/JFK_conspiracy ... speech.mp3
Yes, the conspiracy is so great, and so encompassing, and so "In your face", you cant see it.
Its not the New World Order, its not the Bohemian Grove, its not the Skull & Bones, its not the Jesuits, Its not the Federal Reserve, its not the Builderburgs, Its not the Government of any one country, Its not Freemasonry, its not the higher learning institutions, Its not aliens from outer space. All of these things were created for your amusement and detraction. Do you find this unbelievable?
If you look very, very closely at Abraham Zapruder, Jack Ruby, and the Bosch family, oh I'm sorry, Bush family you will find the strings that lead to the truth.