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[Bob]

That's a decisive sentence, Bob. We have to realistically see, that the intellectual and moral level, which is capable of looking behind political scenes, faces and masks, is still a tiny minority in the world and it's no reason to hate politics just for representing a projection of this situation still. History is full of "bad" politics in this sense. Rather be patient and confident. The human's developement takes milleniums. The internet urges the highly morally sensibal human to millions of most urgent needs for amendments of politics, which can frustrate completely, if not fulfilled immediately. Exercise patience. Just step by step. Your propaganda for more truth is a great step already. The results will come by the 22nd century. If you have some money left, you can establish yourself being a very decisive multiplicator already with serial mails, webpages and lectures.- ChrisGood point Chris. It's funny, because people have always told me that I am very optimistic. A half full glass type of guy. Having been in sales for a long time, I think you have to be optimistic, but also very persistent. I have found the same situation in writing as well, especially in this economic environment. Maybe I have gotten a bit cynical as I have gotten older, but you are absolutely right about staying positive. Thanks for the pep talk!

[Jsnow915]

Honesty...is such a lonely word....everyone is so untrue...take it Bob

[John Beckham]

i have a more pessimistic point of view about this whole thing. i'm optimistic in other ways. it takes all kinds. seems like everyone has a particular area they study. that's fantastic! other peoples opinions/thoughts may give way to another having a revelation. and, i hope the tolerance with everyone's opinions remains. "Power to the People"

[Bob]

Here is one of my favorite anthems against authority, as we fight to stop the rich and powerful elite (not to mention treasonous and unlawful) that try to give us a New World Order ...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dV1v6FmB4P0And yet another great anthem...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SM0WIP7eMYsAnd another one that mentioned one of the criminals by name...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1eyuH1-8A4More Neil...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eWEfnhWbowOne last current version of Neil...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4kTnP5VJ1kAnd maybe the best ever...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87yq372R4Ts

[ChristophMessner]

Thanks a lot for your positive feedback, Pasquale, Bob, conspiracybuff and others! Pasquale DiFabrizio wrote: I have a feeling that even if the U.S. did make changes in its constitution and such, there would still be people like Bush and Cheney getting away with stuff. Don't forget that one of the real problems in this situation is the behavior of muli-national corporations. THEY'RE the ones running the show here because they're the ones with the money! The U.S. isn't the only place that they play their games. It's all about the positive use or negative misuse of power. The either is serving for the others, the other is serving for oneself at the cost of the others. Centralization, corporation, money accumulation is not bad as such, selfish narrowmindedness is bad on each level of power. The higher the worse are the consequences for the whole. That rich robbers get away despite a not-that-bad-constitution is a signal, that the constitution has to be changed furthermore nevertheless to make this impossible from the scratch. Forbidding voting machines for example would be one step. Obligatory taxes on all profits spent for social things only would be the next. Removing nuclear hair trigger alert, bio weapons production and cruel animal experiments and so on and so on. There is a lot to be changed in the constitution. Prizes for whistleblowers. Medals for war crime refusers. No statute-barred prosecution for inside traders. No immunity for politicians. No double chief posts in economy and politics at the same time. Co-responsibility of ministers for their area, the finance minister for example has to pay 1 promille of new debt by himself, defense minister has to fight himself at the front, president has to be impeached automatically if he cooperates with mafia, ... worldwide legalizing of drugs to stop money launderings and war lord financing, limitation of Pentagon and SS etats to a lower level than education and social services etat ... Pasquale DiFabrizio wrote:I personally think that the problem lies in how little the general or mainstream public know about what's going on. I think that the more we put the word out, the less of chance that people will have to be fooled. There are actually people out there who don't know about how JFK was murdered. Correct. We have to work on speaking out the true word more methodically to have a chance against the mainstream deception-media. A daily serial-e-mail with a political enlightenment message to 1000 people, who have to be addressed or function as multiplicators is minimum. Pasquale DiFabrizio wrote: I have a friend who ... thinks that there MIGHT have been ... We need the conversation with friends as well as with representatives of insitutions. Pasquale DiFabrizio wrote: The villains we're talking about (Bush and the rest) can only really be beat with an INFORMED public. If the general public knew what went on and what is STILL going on, they wouldn't allow it. Correct. Build up your own propaganda sender and trust, that although you don't see clear water instantly while dripping clear water into an oil pond, it get's clearer by time. Pasquale DiFabrizio wrote: It is, after all, taxpayer money that they are using. The evil ones ... Nobody in the mainstream media talks about it. So you know what's to do. Pasquale DiFabrizio wrote: I think the more we inform people, the less of a chance they have to get away with the things they do. First comes questioning. Then comes enlightenment. Then comes anger and accusation. Then comes correspondance with same-minded socii to harden one's position and increase self-certainty. Then comes partial change of own way of life with less engagement for money and more engagement to live with greater capability to see the own opinions from more perspectives. Pasquale DiFabrizio wrote: I'm going to continue informing as many people as I can. When I do, I always tell them to Google the facts and decide for themselves. Very well done!Well, I think we have exchanged enough on general political things here, this forum should be reserved for the jfk-murder-solving-process mainly.

[Bob]

Agreed. But just remember this quote on the front page of this site..."Knowing the truth about the Kennedy Assassination is understanding America today." - Wim Dankbaar I think one can say that the JFK assassination has not only affected the America of today, but also the WORLD of today.

[tpfleming]

More than any other event in American history, the JFK Assassination revealed the rottenness in our system and the criminal elite who control it. In a capitalistic society, money and power are all that matter. With them, you can subvert justice, suppress free speech, stifle an open and honest media, and pilfer public money for your own nefarious purposes. This is not to say that other forms of economic systems are more just and above-board. Greed is a universal sin. However, the people are more easily duped because of the promise of an open, democratic, representative government. We are taught from the time we are children that this is a land of the people, by the people, and for the people. Nothing could be further from the truth. And until the government comes forever clean with its dirty JFK assassination laundry, I will never trust it.Tim Flemingwww.eloquentbooks.com/MurderOfAnAmericanNazi.htmlhttp://leftlooking.blogspot.com

[Pasquale DiFabrizio]

tpfleming wrote:More than any other event in American history, the JFK Assassination revealed the rottenness in our system and the criminal elite who control it. In a capitalistic society, money and power are all that matter. With them, you can subvert justice, suppress free speech, stifle an open and honest media, and pilfer public money for your own nefarious purposes. This is not to say that other forms of economic systems are more just and above-board. Greed is a universal sin. However, the people are more easily duped because of the promise of an open, democratic, representative government. We are taught from the time we are children that this is a land of the people, by the people, and for the people. Nothing could be further from the truth. And until the government comes forever clean with its dirty JFK assassination laundry, I will never trust it.Tim Fleminghttp://www.eloquentbooks.com/MurderOfAnAmerica ... gspot.comI couldn't have said it better myself.

[nephew23]

LOL! Bob - it is not my intent to simply argue with you today! But do you think Bill and Hillary live right next door to Mr. and Mrs. Joe Blow ... with no extra security or gates? Of course they don't! There is no public access to their homes. For the record, the gate President Bush wants is not even worth talking about. The juicy part is that his backdoor neighbor is one Tom Hicks - oil and businessman, and owner of the Dallas Stars and Texas Rangers. Their properties are separated my Mr. Hicks' helipad - which, I assume, will be used by the President, as well. Furthermore, rumor has it that a couple of the surrounding homes and properites have been bought by "friends" and will remain vacant. For the record, if I were the exiting President I would be doing the same thing, regardless of my perception (which, by the way, happens to be decided by the drive-by media).As for Yobama ... if he and the Democratic Congress succeed to their fullest, then our country will be socialist and we will be "one with the world." No longer a super power and our security - the world's security - will be gone. It will, in the end, be worse than the last 8 years ... and literally, the end of the world as we know it.One more thought ... I know you think President Bush is as bad as it gets ... and you may even think he allowed or setup 9/11 so we could eventually invade Iraq. And granted, we are all entitled to our own beliefs and opinions. But I, for one, don't believe he is that far corrupt, nor do I honestly believe he could back something as brutal to the nation as 9/11. At the very least, I applaud and appreciate him for 2 important accomplishments: (1) our nation has not been attacked again since 9/11, not even abroad, and (2) regardless of what the reasons behind it may have been, the people of Iraq and Afghanastan are FREE. In our time when government is most certainly corrupt across the board, we are forced to take the good with the bad.

[John Beckham]

amen!!! Bush, if you belive what you belive. is a bafoon. not responsible, and told what to do, the root of all evil? look towards the industrial military to discover "the love of money"!my girlfriends aunt lives on the same street. she is highly upset about this. of course, the Bushists will argue that he created 9-11, certainly there has be no attacks since ( 'cause they are in control). it is an argument you can't discuss amoung the rabid. i agree with you.