Gilbert Lopez

[John Beckham]

looks like the person with Umbrella Man? was in Dallas, in Mexico by the 23rd, only person on flight. days later he's back in Cuba. he was also a false defector, in the Fair Play for Cuba and had Tampa ties...

[Bob]

To me, that fellow next to umbrella man was Orlando Bosch.Orlando Bosch is released in 1987 under diplomatic pressure of the then US ambassador for Venezuela Otto Reich. Otto Reich is from Cuban descent and an avid anti Castro Cuban exile. He was recently appointed assistant Secretary of State under Colin Powell in the current Bush administration. Back in Miami, Orlando Bosch is released from house arrest by presidential order as soon as Bush is president. No outcry was reported by the mainstream press. While incarcerated in Caracas, both Luis Posada Carriles and Orlando Bosch were visited and interviewed by HSCA investigator Gaeton Fonzi. Not surprisingly they denied being in Dallas on November 22, 1963. However, neither of them could give a verifiable alibi. For a more in depth story by Geaton Fonzi documenting these intimate connections: http://cuban-exile.com/doc_051-075/doc0063.html or read his excellent book "The last investigation" online: http://cuban-exile.com/menu2/2fonzi.html

[ChristophMessner]

The photo in the first post showes probably the man to the left sitting in this photo: http://www.latinamericanstudies.org/veciana.htmAnd this is not the umbrella man, because umbrella's forehead was significantly higher and he had shorter legs than Orlando Bosch next to him. Umbrella man was rather the man on the far right on this photo: But no, he had more hair, so my guess is, it was Witt: Most probable it does not make sense to poke with a needle in a hay pile blindly.

[Bob]

Umbrella man was rather the man on the far right on this photo:- Chris Actually the man on the far right in the photograph with Oswald was Chauncey Holt. Holt himself confirmed that.Also, speaking of Lopez, Rob had an interesting theory once about Lopez being Tippit's killer. Lopez does resemble Mr. X somewhat, although the killer turned out to be Gary Marlow. Finally, Lopez would have been a perfect patsy had the assassination taken place in Tampa.

[ChristophMessner]

Was Holt that small? Half a head smaller than Oswald even?

[Bob]

ChristophMessner wrote:Was Holt that small? Half a head smaller than Oswald even?Look in the tramp photos, as the older tramp is quite small.http://www.jfkmurdersolved.com/lois4.htmHere is another interesting photo to review...This is a photo with Felix Rodriguez in the front left, sitting next to former CIA director Porter Goss, who is sitting next to Barry Seal. The guy hiding his face on the right is Tosh Plumlee. All of the men in the photo were supposedly part of Group 40 or Operation 40. A recruiter for Group 40 was Poppy Bu$h, another former CIA director. What was Group 40 again???Jim Marrs : During that time, during the time of the Bay of Pigs, while you were training and moving around in the Caribbean, No Name Key and all that, did you ever hear the name George Herbert Walker Bush? James Files: Oh Yeah! Jim Marrs: What was his role? James Files: George Herbert Walker Bush. I don't know if, I think a lot of people are not going to believe this, but he worked for the CIA back as early as 1961 that I know of. Jim Marrs : How did he work? What did he do? James Files : I don't know all he did, but he did a lot of recruiting work. I know he was there at the beginning for what we called Group 40, a special operations group, Group 40. If you wonder what Group 40 was, an assassination group.

[Pasquale DiFabrizio]

Chris and Bob,Check out this comparison of umbrella-man's companion. It certainly seems like it's Orlando Bosch to me. http://www.copweb.be/Orlando%20Bosch%20Avila.htm

[ChristophMessner]

Bob, thanks for this reminder and comparison. Yes, then it could be Holt with Lee on that photo! Are all names of the photos here identified? Pasquale, good that you brought that link again. Of course it was Orlando Bosch, in my eyes that is clearly visible. But, by the way, when I listen to James Files telling about who he saw there on Dealey Plaza: Tony Diaz, Phillipp Alderisio, Frank Sturgis, Orlando Bosch, Richard Cain, ... and when he says that Richard Cain was like walking away from him, it is ringing in my ears that this would have meant, that at the time Files was placing himself behind the fence, Richard Cain and the others were still outside of the TSBD or other buildings and that means, that they still had to enter these buildings and climb upstairs to their sniper's position. So there is a time span in which people could have observed them doing so. Of course, many people gathered on the streets, so there could be no possibility for the normal spectator to differenciate between normal and suspicious behavior, but at least the people who were still inside of the buildings, they must have registered the incoming ones while everybody else was going outside. And Tosh Plumlee said, the team was late, so they probably hurried up to get into position. Chris

[Bob]

Pasquale DiFabrizio wrote:Chris and Bob,Check out this comparison of umbrella-man's companion. It certainly seems like it's Orlando Bosch to me. http://www.copweb.be/Orlando%20Bosch%20 ... tmPasquale, I certainly agree that it is Bosch as well. Chris, in terms of the photo (if you click on the photo you will get a larger image) I submitted, I only know of the four names that I mentioned in that Group 40 photo...Felix Rodriguez, Porter Goss, Barry Seal and Tosh Plumlee. I thought it might be a good idea to compare that one to the photo that you posted as well. David Morales, for instance, was certainly in JM/Wave and also in Group 40. Frank Sturgis was also in Group 40. I have also read that Daniel Hopsicker, who is an author, claims that it was Sturgis, and not Plumlee, who is trying to hide his face in that photo. It has also been claimed that in the picture are Albertao 'Loco' Blanco (3rd right) and Jorgo Robreno (4th right).

[Rob Waters]

no disrespect to Wim, he has done a lot of great work but i just dont believe that Chauncey Holt was the tramp. The photo of him in N.O> with Oswald looks nothing like the guy in the tramp pic. I think the tramp was a SS agent. See here:http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s53/ ... 1/pic1.jpg