TOP 5 INTELLECTUAL PRESIDENTS OF ALL TIME

[scottjfkmad]

In no particular order, just name who you think the top 5 most intellectual presidents have been…. You can judge the term intellectual in anyway you see fit:1. John Fitzgerald Kennedy2. Abraham Lincoln3. Thomas Jefferson4. Barrack Obama5. George WashingtonIs it accurate to say, that without the possible exceptions of Clinton & Nixon, that there hasn’t been an intellectual President in the White House since Nov 22nd 1963?, up until the present day.

[ChristophMessner]

1. Ghandi2. Markus Aurelius3. Otto III. 4. Salomon5. Ramses II. Presidents, who call the actions of the secret services "intelligence" cannot be called intellectual. One exception: JFK. He was against that kind of "intelligence".Countries, in which the bankers rule, cannot call their "presidents" presidents, because they are still puppets. One exception: USA. They had a president, who turned against the bankers.

[Bob]

I would also rank Jimmy Carter near the top. A lot of folks try to say he was a terrible President, but he inherited the gas price issues and inflation situation from the Nixon/Ford administrations. Carter did broker the peace agreement with Israel and Egypt, and that says a LOT, compared to what is happening today in the Middle East. Also, Carter was a nuclear physicist at Navy before he went into politics.

[Pasquale DiFabrizio]

Bob wrote:I would also rank Jimmy Carter near the top. A lot of folks try to say he was a terrible President, but he inherited the gas price issues and inflation situation from the Nixon/Ford administrations. Carter did broker the peace agreement with Israel and Egypt, and that says a LOT, compared to what is happening today in the Middle East. Also, Carter was a nuclear physicist at Navy before he went into politics.I have to vote for Carter too. I like him. He's STILL active in public causes. Didn't he win a nobel peace prize too? Seriously.....

[scottjfkmad]

Carter was actually 6th on my list....He did yes, in 2002 i think it was for Humanitarian work...Pitty he only served 1 term

[Bob]

Yes, as Scott says, Carter did win a Nobel peace prize. I helped with Habitat for Humanity for awhile, and Carter is a BIG advocate for that cause. Speaking of Nobel peace prizes, MLK won one as well. In terms of being an intellectual and also just being a great leader in the U.S.A., but not a President, my top choice would be Benjamin Franklin...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_FranklinJust look at his biography and all that he accomplished, as a statesman, revolutionary, inventor, author, musician and chess master among his accomplishments.

[Pasquale DiFabrizio]

Bob wrote:Yes, as Scott says, Carter did win a Nobel peace prize. I helped with Habitat for Humanity for awhile, and Carter is a BIG advocate for that cause. Speaking of Nobel peace prizes, MLK won one as well. In terms of being an intellectual and also just being a great leader in the U.S.A., but not a President, my top choice would be Benjamin Franklin...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_FranklinJust look at his biography and all that he accomplished, as a statesman, revolutionary, inventor, author, musician and chess master among his accomplishments....absolutely....and...I understand he was quite the ladies' man too...at least in Europe. Ewwww....bad visual I just had! )

[scottjfkmad]

Benjamin Franklin for sure, and of course Martin Luther King...But if we are talking about intellectuals, who changed the face some of us think and perceive ideals, without actually making to the White House, then surely Robert F.Kennedy is worthy of a mention.A 1968 Kennedy vs. Nixon Part 2, with a victory again going Kennedy's way could have set the tone for a very different world this very day.

[Bob]

I certainly agree about RFK. He still doesn't get the credit he deserves in the Cuban Missile Crisis (October 1962), when all the neocons wanted to invade Cuba and start a nuclear war and WWIII. That event came on the heels of Operation Northwoods in March of 1962, in which Lemnitzer and the rest of the rabid right wanted to use a 9/11 type plan to incite the U.S. citizens to want to invade Cuba...http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICL ... ods.htmlIt was RFK that advised JFK to use the blockade strategy which basically ended the crisis, along with the removal of missiles in Turkey 6 months later. However, RFK did have some blemishes as well, as all politicians do. He went after the mob with vengeance, and that played a part certainly in JFK's eventual murder. The mob thought that was obviously unnecessary after the agreement that they made with Joe Kennedy in the 1960 Presidential election to help win Illinois, and also the fact that RFK was well aware of the CIA's allegiance with the mob in their attempt to get rid of Castro in Cuba. RFK felt that his actions against the mob did indeed play a part in his brother's murder, and he felt enormous guilt. But overall, RFK was a GREAT politician and he would have stopped the Vietnam war and would have attempted to bring justice to those who killed his brother. That is why he too was assassinated in June of 1968 by the same people that killed his brother. Remember the words of David Morales..."I was in Dallas when we got the son of a bitch and I was in Los Angeles when we got the little bastard." Know this about Morales...In November, 1961, William Harvey arranged for Morales to be posted to JM/WAVE, the CIA station in Miami. Morales was operations chief for the CIA's covert operation to train and infiltrate teams into Cuba to destabilize the Castro government. Morales reported directly to veteran Agency covert operator Ted Shackley, who was the Agency’s Miami bureau chief. In May, 1962, Morales was seconded to ZR/RIFLE, the plot to assassinate Fidel Castro. During this period he worked closely with David Atlee Phillips, Tracy Barnes, William Pawley, Johnny Roselli and John Martino. Do those names look familiar folks? Guess who else was tight with Shackley and Pillips? Our good friend Poppy Bu$h. Look at this interview with Jimmy Files with Jim Marrs...Jim Marrs : During that time, during the time of the Bay of Pigs, while you were training and moving around in the Caribbean, No Name Key and all that, did you ever hear the name George Herbert Walker Bush? James Files: Oh Yeah! Jim Marrs: What was his role? James Files: George Herbert Walker Bush. I don't know if, I think a lot of people are not going to believe this, but he worked for the CIA back as early as 1961 that I know of. Jim Marrs : How did he work? What did he do? James Files : I don't know all he did, but he did a lot of recruiting work. I know he was there at the beginning for what we called Group 40, a special operations group, Group 40. If you wonder what Group 40 was, an assassination group. Operation 40 was a top secret CIA project to train selected cuban exiles in guerrilla warfare and assassinations, aimed against the Castro regime. Apart from Felix Rodriguez, other members were now infamous CIA agents and Anti Castro terrorists like Luis Posada Carriles, Orlando Bosch, Guillermo and Ignacio Novo Sampoll and later Watergate plumbers Frank Sturgis, Eugenio Martinez, Virgilio Gonzalez and E. Howard Hunt. Most of the operation 40 members were recruited from JM/Wave, a much larger clandestine operation to train a cuban exile army for the Bay of Pigs invasion. JM/Wave is headed by CIA official Theodore Shackley. James Files, the confessed gunman on the grassy knoll, was recruited for the CIA by David Atlee Phillips on a recommendation of Ted Shackley. Shackley becomes George Bush's deputy director for Covert Operations in 1976. The CIA controller of JFK's assassin is provably close to Shackley, Shackley is provably close to Bush. Not significant?

[tom jeffers]

my take on carter is that he was basically a good man that sold his soul to the CFR for power to be their puppet and now is an old man trying to erase his past deeds and tryng to get into heaven. carter was used to clear the road for the silent majority that took control over the republican party for the next 30 years.