2006 Update On Edward Lansdale

[Pasquale DiFabrizio]

Wim asked me to post the text from pages 94 through 97 of the book Interview with History: The JFK Assassination written by "Pamela J. Ray with James E. Files"I saw Kennedy’s head explode. At that moment, I knew he was dead. I knew that no one could survive that hit. I removed the shell casing, placed it in my mouth bit the casing and placed it on the fence, laid the Fireball back in the case, closed it and walked away. As I walked away from the fence, I saw the cop drop the motorcycle on its side and run up the hill with another cop close by. They were stopped by two men wearing suites and showing some kind of ID’s. I was preparing to pull my Colt .45 from under my jacket and shoot them when they were stopped. I just kept right on walking like I was going back to work from my lunch break.2006 update: Edward G. Lansdale talked to James Files when he was behind the picket fence up on the grassy knoll waiting for JFK’s motorcade to arrive. Files said Lansdale asked if everyone was in place and Files said Nicoletti and Roselli were in the Dal-Tex building and he was only supposed to fire if the target, JFK, was not hit. He did not talk about other “teams” but only what immediately concerned him. Earlier in the call, Files mentioned that the “CIA person” had a radio with him and was considered the “grounds controller on station” for the CIA that day. Files was reluctant to tell me Lansdale’s name on the phone when he mentioned that there were different size footprints behind the fence imprinted in the mud. I guessed Lansdale’s name Files didn’t want to say and he quickly changed the subject. I was a little slow in getting his hint and when he yelled in the phone one more time I understood to shut up already. You won’t read that information anywhere else…especially in an FBI report. (Commenting on recent material in 2006 I sent him for review)JF: Hey a lot of this stuff refreshes my memories. A lot of it makes me think of things – it brings up names and stuff. PR: That’s why I sent it to you, but if I send too much or stuff you don’t want, just trash it.JF: There is one thing I was a little concerned about…PR: What?JF: Okay, like I told ya before, my interview I always told the truth, I just didn’t tell all of it. PR: I know.JF: Now then. When I pulled the trigger on Kennedy, behind the stockade fence, I was alone. Now prior to that, I did have a visitor. Before the motorcade ever got within reach. PR: Who?JF: Huh?PR: Who? JF: I don’t think we should, I don’t think we should use the name or not, I’m debating on that. I don’t know if I should tell ya the name or not. But see there were two sets of footprints…all the footprints back there? PR: Um-hmJF: Some were overlapping the other ones which meant the party had to have been there while I was there at the same time, cause we were walking back and forth, we were overlapping each other’s footsteps, when we were turning, you know what I mean? PR: Um-hmJF: And they know they were made by two different sets of shoes. PR: Would I know the name if you said it? JF: Oh yes! (Pause) strictly CIA…and it was not David Phillips. This guy was grounds coordinator. He was coordinator for operations. (Cough) But Like I say, I don’t know if we want to put his name in there or not…we might raise trouble with a lawsuit…I don’t want to put you in danger from putting it out there…that’s one of the things I’m in turmoil with right now. PR: When you wrote to me about two different shoe sizes, I thought maybe you wore two different shoe sizes that day…JF: No, no, no, no…PR: …just to confuse people.JF: No, no, no, no, no…I wasn’t that smart back then.PR: I thought maybe you did something like that.JF: No. The other party wanted to know if everything was in place – team was ready – we was gonna do our thing – he wanted to know where everybody was, you know, about the guys I was with, he was referring to like Chuck and Johnny. PR: Right.JF: So… (pause) well like I say, we can bring this up but I don’t know if we’re gonna put his name in there or not.PR: Before you said “The CIA wasn’t involved as much…” and now you’re saying they were…JF: They was involv…I tried to keep the CIA out of it…I tried to keep them happy as possible, and it’s just not gonna work ‘cause everybody knows they were involved so why cover it?PR: Right.JF: But the whole thing was this, I did what I felt was right the first time around, but like I say, when I pulled the trigger, I was alone. And as far I was concerned, there was nobody involved but Chuck, Johnny Roselli and me. And that was it. But there’s powers beyond, they didn’t pull the trigger but they were powers that were working. PR: Did you talk to Ed Lansdale that day?(Silence)PR: Jimmy? Hello…JF: I’m sorry. We’re breaking up…I couldn’t hear you on that one. PR: I said, “Did you ta…”JF: I know, I know, I said I’m breaking up. PR: Honey did you…JF: How are you doin’? How ya feelin’? PR: Me?JF: Yeah. PR: Pretty good. JF: Good. (Laugh)PR: I was gonna ask you if…JF: I know you was.PR: Oh okay. Yeah. I feel great. JF: Ya gotta remember…if I say we’re breakin’ up, we’re breakin’ up. You get off of it. (Laugh)PR: Honey I’m not used to your codes as much as I should be…JF: I know. PR: ‘cause I don’t really talk like that. Sorry.JF: Anyway though, we’ll worry about all that stuff later.

[Brian White]

Very interesting- thanks for posting, Pasquale. The final link toCIA involvement.

[Pasquale DiFabrizio]

Brian White wrote:Very interesting- thanks for posting, Pasquale. The final link toCIA involvement.I'll help whenever I can!