JFK (the movie)

[Bob]

I'm sure most of you have seen this film, but this film is the mother lode of all conspiracy movies. The film was released in 1991 and I think Oliver Stone got the essence of the conspiracy and assassination correct.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3GlGaZP ... re=related

[kenmurray]

Bob I have "JFK" the director's cut on DVD which has additional 17 minutes not shown at theaters when released in 1991. That additional 17 minutes deals with the Carson interview. Also there is the bonus DVD "Beyond JFK: The Question Of Conspiracy which is an excellent documentary.

[Bob]

kenmurray wrote:Bob I have "JFK" the director's cut on DVD which has additional 17 minutes not shown at theaters when released in 1991. That additional 17 minutes deals with the Carson interview. Also there is the bonus DVD "Beyond JFK: The Question Of Conspiracy which is an excellent documentary. Cool. I just have the original version. I think I saw the Johnny Carson scene once on You Tube or somewhere. I'm going to look again.

[ThomZajac]

I remember thinking when On the Trail of the Assassins first came out that it would make a great movie, and it surely did. I too think Stone demonstrated a pretty clear and insightful understanding of the assassination, and that he treated Garrison fairly.One thing bothered me about the book though, and perhaps one of you can help me out on this-A man, I think named Miller, arranges for a meeting with Garrison and not-too-subtly offers Garrison an appointment as a federal judge in exchange for calling off the investigation. Why didn't Garrison arrest that guy? Does anyone else remember this?

[katisha]

ThomZajac wrote:I remember thinking when On the Trail of the Assassins first came out that it would make a great movie, and it surely did. I too think Stone demonstrated a pretty clear and insightful understanding of the assassination, and that he treated Garrison fairly.One thing bothered me about the book though, and perhaps one of you can help me out on this-A man, I think named Miller, arranges for a meeting with Garrison and not-too-subtly offers Garrison an appointment as a federal judge in exchange for calling off the investigation. Why didn't Garrison arrest that guy? Does anyone else remember this?Yeah, John Miller, "who described himself as an oil man from Denver" Garrison says. These are the closing paras of the chapter about Miller:I leaned back in my chair and put both feet on the corner of my table. I looked him over for a long moment before I spoke."Mr Miller," I said "you and I have met under a great misunderstanding. I haven't the remotest interest in becoming a federal judge. And nothing is going to keep me from going ahead with my investigation of John Kennedy's murder."I remained where I was so the man couldn't attempt to shake hands with me. I turned to Andrew Sciambra. "Andrew, Mr Miller and I have finished our conversation. Would you mind escorting him to the side door?"Miller was startled at the sudden change in the course of events. I could see that his jawbones were tight. Sciambra guided him out the door and a minute later was back. "Those bastards," Sciambra sneered. "They think they can buy everybody off. Did you see the guy's Annapolis ring?" he continued. I had not noticed it. Sciambra shook his head. "Well, they offered you the carrot, and you turned it down." He paused for emphasis. "You know what's coming next, don't you?"No mention of arresting him, or whether he considered it.

[kenmurray]

katisha wrote:ThomZajac wrote:I remember thinking when On the Trail of the Assassins first came out that it would make a great movie, and it surely did. I too think Stone demonstrated a pretty clear and insightful understanding of the assassination, and that he treated Garrison fairly.One thing bothered me about the book though, and perhaps one of you can help me out on this-A man, I think named Miller, arranges for a meeting with Garrison and not-too-subtly offers Garrison an appointment as a federal judge in exchange for calling off the investigation. Why didn't Garrison arrest that guy? Does anyone else remember this?Yeah, John Miller, "who described himself as an oil man from Denver" Garrison says. These are the closing paras of the chapter about Miller:Good job there I leaned back in my chair and put both feet on the corner of my table. I looked him over for a long moment before I spoke."Mr Miller," I said "you and I have met under a great misunderstanding. I haven't the remotest interest in becoming a federal judge. And nothing is going to keep me from going ahead with my investigation of John Kennedy's murder."I remained where I was so the man couldn't attempt to shake hands with me. I turned to Andrew Sciambra. "Andrew, Mr Miller and I have finished our conversation. Would you mind escorting him to the side door?"Miller was startled at the sudden change in the course of events. I could see that his jawbones were tight. Sciambra guided him out the door and a minute later was back. "Those bastards," Sciambra sneered. "They think they can buy everybody off. Did you see the guy's Annapolis ring?" he continued. I had not noticed it. Sciambra shook his head. "Well, they offered you the carrot, and you turned it down." He paused for emphasis. "You know what's coming next, don't you?"No mention of arresting him, or whether he considered it.Good job there Katisha.

[ThomZajac]

Thanks Katisha.But why didn't Garrison consider arresting him? Or pursuing him? Seems he had a direct line to the wizards and said "Go away." That just seems very odd to me.

[Phil Dragoo]

John Miller is an index entry for pages 153-8 of Jim Garrison, On the Trail of the Assassins.As to why Garrison didn't pursue Miller, consider the man beset by the two tigers of the Zen koan. He was satisfied in tasting the sweetness of the berry before being torn to pieces.

[j.j.c.bruinsma]

GREAT man,my hero:Cyril Wecht COPA conference 11/21/09http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/2609303. (at 41.30 W.Dankbaar/J.Files)gr.J.J.C.

[Bob]

j.j.c.bruinsma wrote:GREAT man,my hero:Cyril Wecht COPA conference 11/21/09http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/2609303. (at 41.30 W.Dankbaar/J.Files)gr.J.J.C.You are the man J.J.C. Excellent. I hope to see more of the presentations in the next few days from the COPA conference.