Oswald - innocent in a court of law

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Shane
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Oswald - innocent in a court of law

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I often wonder what would have happened had Lee Harvey Oswald lived to tell his tale in a court of law. Below are just a few points of interest that would have cleared Oswald's name. I look forward to any additional facts the forum has to offer.1) Possible fuzzy picture of him standing in front of book depository as motorcade rolled by. If his attorney would have compared this picture with what Oswald was wearing that day, it could have been enough evidence to acquit. 2) He was witnessed by many to be on the first floor prior to the shooting3) A police officer found Oswald drinking a Coke on the second floor less than 90 seconds after the assassination.4) His Marine record stated he had “Maggie’s Drawers.” Which meant he had failed to hit the target on a shooting exercise. His superior officers, and the documentation of his shooting tests, claimed he was not a good shot (prosecution would have been forced to prove how Oswald pulled off one of the greatest shooting exercises in history, including the Magic Bullet).5) A test proved Oswald did not fire a rifle on Nov. 22nd 19636) The sniper’s nest would have been investigated, and then proven that his first shot would have been obstructed by a Texas Live Oak.7) The Dallas Police would have been under the microscope for the way they “secured” the crime scene and “collected evidence.” The gun, a (Mauzer 7.67), found on the scene by Dallas police was not the gun later entered into evidence as the one Oswald supposedly used (a Carcano), which was mailed to a post office box under Alex Hidell, an Oswald alias, determined by two sets of IDs found on his person that day – Lee H. Oswald and Alex Hidell. 9) Dallas Police found three gun shells near the sixth floor window. Only two were entered into police evidence.10) Oswald was never able to speak to a lawyer as the media machine cranked out his guilt11) A 201 form proving Oswald worked for the CIA, backed up by CIA agency members confirming Oswald was CIA12) Documentation proving Oswald was an informant for the FBI, backed up by FBI agency members confirming Oswald was working for the FBI 13) The Zapruder film. Had Oswald made it to court this would have been the first piece of evidence his attorney would have put on display. Case closed.14) The picture of Oswald on Life. This would have pointed toward the media’s complacency, and perhaps thrown the case out of court 15) Can you imagine the Magic Bullet Theory being entered as evidence in court? It would have been laughed out of the building
Dealey Joe
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Re: Oswald - innocent in a court of law

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Your on a roll man
kenmurray
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Destroying The Single Bullet Theory

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Speaking of that "Magical" bullet here is a good documentary on that subject which came out many years ago:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saDhXPaA ... re=related
Phil Dragoo
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Tippit verdict: not guilty

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This leads us to the murder of Patrolman J. D. Tippit. Quite naturally, Bugliosi thinks there is no question about Oswald's guilt in this incident also. As the reader can see here, Bugliosi appears to distort Mark Lane's fine work on the Tippit murder. (To the point that Lane has sent a letter to Tom Hanks and Gary Goetzman at their company Playtone threatening to sue if these are repeated in the production they are preparing based on this book.) Bugliosi deals with the mismatching of cartridges with bullets in an on-page footnote in his End Notes section. (pgs. 451-52) There were two Winchester and two Remington shells which hit the officer. But the bullets were three Winchesters and one Remington. How does the prosecutor solve this problem? He says that one shot missed. And he does not in any way note the paradox of what he says in this instance with what he said previously about the murder of JFK. With JFK, Bugliosi promulgates the myth of Oswald the excellent shooter -- which as we have seen is false. Yet in this case, at very close range, he wants us to believe this crack shot somehow missed. Also, as I noted in part one, with the JFK shooting Bugliosi demands to know: if there were more than three shots, where did the extra bullets or shells go? As I noted previously, there is an answer to that question. Here there is none that I know of. No one has ever found this missing bullet. But strangely, or not, the prosecutor does not even pose the question.FBI agent Cortland Cunningham could not match the bullets recovered from Tippit's body to Oswald's alleged handgun. (WC Vol. 3 p. 465) So the shells became key. Bugliosi does not deal at all with the late arriving and discovered cartridge cases. Once the FBI found they could not match the bullets to the weapon, the cases were sent to the Bureau six days later. Even though they were not on the evidence summary. (Jim Garrison, On the Trail of the Assassins, p. 200) But were these matching cases the ones found at the scene? Witness Domingo Benavides gave Officer James Poe two shells. Sergeant Gerald Hill told Poe to mark them with his initials. When Poe examined the shells for the Commission, he could not find his initials on any of them. (ibid p. 201)Bugliosi, as he usually does, dismisses the now unmarked shells as an issue that cannot be resolved. He then adds "but such unresolvable points are common in the investigation of a complex, multifaceted murder investigation." (EN p. 453) (Yet, elsewhere and in person, he insists the Kennedy case is a simple one.) From here, he goes on to relate what he calls another such mystery started by FBI agent James Hosty in his book Assignment: Oswald. Hosty wrote that after Tippit's body was taken away by ambulance, Captain Westbrook found a man's wallet near the pool of blood where Tippit's body had been. (ibid) The wallet was Oswald's. This seriously conflicts with the official story which has the DPD taking Oswald's wallet from him on the ride from his arrest at the Texas Theater to City Hall. There is even film of this incident made by TV station WFAA. Westbrook told FBI agent Bob Barrett that the identification was for a Lee Harvey Oswald and Alek Hidell. In the film, there are three men handling the wallet. Bugliosi tries to save the day by ending his three page discussion with the conclusion that in spite of the witness testimony to the contrary, it was Tippit's wallet, not Oswald's. (ibid p. 456) Here's the problem with this desperate hypothesis. At 2:00 PM that afternoon, three police officers went to Methodist Hospital to recover Tippit's effects. There were placed in an envelope and taken to DPD headquarters where they were checked in at the Identification Bureau at 3:25 PM. One of the effects was Tippit's wallet. (Dallas Municipal Archives, Box 9, Folder 1, Item 17; Armstrong, p. 871) Incredibly, Bugliosi dismisses this fact. Even though the only item carried to the hospital was Tippit's handgun, he says that someone may have brought his wallet from the scene to the hospital. Even though the only wallet picked up was the one with Oswald's ID.But as desperate as he is to escape this "too many wallets" dilemma, he cannot. Why? Because if you look at the Warren Report, (p. 15), you will see that Oswald supposedly left his wallet in a dresser drawer at the Paine's the morning of the assassination. That makes three wallets. Predictably, Bugliosi does not mention this fact in his discussion of the issue. Therefore he does not have to address the troubling evidentiary point that even if he is totally unjustified in transforming the Oswald/Hidell wallet into Tippit's, that still leaves an extra wallet to explain. And he doesn't.But it gets even worse for the illustrious prosecutor. A witness said that the killer of Tippit leaned onto the police car. And therefore the police had the car dusted for prints. But, according to Bugliosi, only smudged prints were found. (Bugliosi p. 103) The police later told the Commission that the prints were not legible. (ibid). Bugliosi goes on at length -- a full paragraph -- about how this is not uncommon. He says "Contrary to popular belief, this is typical." He goes on to say that actually it's quite rare to find clear fingerprints of the suspect at the scene. (ibid)Here's the problem. The House Select Committee on Assassinations said that there were clear prints taken off the car. Detective Paul Bentley told that body in 1978 that Officer Doughty "lifted good prints from the exterior section of that door immediately below the rolled-down window." (HSCA interview of former Dallas policeman Paul Bentley 6/15/78 ) Both the good and bad prints are located at the Dallas Municipal Archives. The Warren Commission examined neither. Dale Myers took the prints to a fingerprint technician in Wayne County, Michigan. The man was named Herbert Lutz. Lutz compared the good car prints with Oswald's. Here's the problem for the prosecutor: they did not match. (Dale Myers, With Malice, pgs. 274-278) It is very hard to believe that Bugliosi did not know this. As I said in part one of this review, Myers is one of his unnamed ghostwriters. And he quotes from pages all around this section of With Malice in his End Notes. Remember, Bugliosi said in his Introduction that he would not knowingly distort or omit anything important. It is almost inescapable that he did here.But one can understand from a prosecutorial point of view why he would resist the second wallet at the scene and the non-Oswald fingerprints on the car. If he accepts them, then it clearly suggests that someone tried to frame Oswald for the Tippit shooting. Since the prints were not Oswald's then either the assailant was not him , or there were two of them. And the killer dropped a mock up of Oswald's wallet at the scene to frame him. Question: If the killer was Oswald, why would he do that? But making Bugliosi's stance even more convoluted and unsustainable, he says in his Introduction that he could find no "speck of credible evidence that Oswald was framed." (p. xviii) If the above exculpatory evidence of the prints and the wallet is not credible, then what on earth is?http://www.ctka.net/2008/bugliosi_2_review.htmlThere is no proof--"still can't put Oswald in that window with a gun"Tippit: not guilty.Walker: fuggedaboudit.Oh, and he never owned the MC:http://www.jfklancerforum.com/dc/dcboar ... =85804Some still say it's a slam-dunkel:Eric Hoffer's True Believer, Stalin's New Soviet Man, Orwell's Inner Party member.
Shane
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Re: Oswald - innocent in a court of law

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"Yet in this case, at very close range, he wants us to believe this crack shot somehow missed."Phil, this is easy to solve. We all know how bad Oswald is with his first shot (he missed Kennedy by nearly 30 feet before accomplishing some of the finest marksmanship ever known). So when he went to shoot Tippit, the first shot missed, badly I'm sure, and the others hit the target. I'm just surprised he needed all those shots. I bet he could have gotten another Magic Bullet had he tried If the media had ever pursued any of this, certain members of the CIA, military, and FBI would be sitting in a prison cell next to LBJ. As it is, they run our country. Where is the "war on terror" being fought?
Phil Dragoo
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Defendant executed pre-trial

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ShaneMark Lane in Plausible Denial takes apart E. Howard Hunt's alibi for the day of the assassination. Lane created a lot of enemies in the power elite; our friend the veteran of army intelligence called Lane a "communist."The lineups were appalling, the witnesses were pathetic, the evidence was added later after the authentic exhibits were lost.Lee asked for legal representation--even asked Ruth Paine, that great upstanding member of the American Civil Liberties Union--and she later said she was glad he was dead--yes the Church Lady from that Unitarian strain so cultivated by Dulles was glad the innocent framed victim was dead--and her hands are red as Lady Macbeth's.We have a witness who testified to police and FBI he saw Lee Oswald in the Domino Room--then changed his testimony for the Warren Commission.The timing of the Tippit shoot put Lee Oswald out of the picture--as well as the ballistics and the witnesses.The Walker attempt--two men and a car--and a different bullet than the one shown later--and Walker said so.Lee never purchased the gun--the money order was purchased while he was at work and was never cashed.The gun "found" is not the gun advertised--anomalies abound with the alleged weapon: the print of the palm which materialized post-mortem, the bag which could not be photographed in situ since it wasn't made yet, then it appeared three times just as Lee's wallet.The backyard photos with the same head, the black clothes Lee never owned, the two ideologically opposed papers--yet Lee never consorted with Communists and Marina said she looked through the camera--impossible.The Tague shot came from the Dal-Tex Building, not the Depository.Veciana saw Phillips with Oswald (Gaeton Fonzi, The Last Investigation) showing CIA handling of the patsy.And Phillips admitted he was in Dallas that day.Every facet of the glittery ball reflects the innocence of Oswald and the agency of the intelligence community's facilitation of the assassination of the impediment to the ends of the power elite.Now Petraeus leaves Poppystan for Langley. Ahmad Wali Karzai client of our favorite plagiarist and Warrenati assassinated. Jim Morrison: when the music's over, turn out the lights.As the current phone hacking scandal is trumpeted consider the new National Security Agency data center in Utah, a million square feet---that's a room of hackers one thousand feet long and one thousand feet wide.Are they listening for terrorists or listening for anyone uncovering the machinations of the power elite and their military-intelligence handmaidens.Lee Oswald enlisted in the Marines in 1956 and was pressed into intelligence operations by ONI, CIA, FBI ultimately consumed as fuel in a stove.The CIA, an independent federal agency, was created bythe National Security Act of 1947 to support nationalpolicymakers through collection of foreign intelligenceinformation by clandestine means. Congress was so concerned toprotect the ability of the CIA to conduct effective clandestineintelligence activities that it enacted, in 1949, a specificlegislative provision to shield the CIA’s organization andfunctions from public disclosure. Section 6 of the CentralIntelligence Agency Act of 1949 ("CIA Act") provides that theCIA "shall be exempted" from the provisions of any laws whichrequire "publication or disclosure of the organization,functions, names, official titles, salaries, or numbers ofpersonnel employed by the Agency." The Section 6 exemption hasbeen substantively unchanged since it was enacted in 1949.
Shane
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Re: Oswald - innocent in a court of law

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Great post, Ken. I've never seen this before. It looks a little like Malcolm Wallace without the glasses
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Re: Oswald - innocent in a court of law

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Shane wrote:Great post, Ken. I've never seen this before. It looks a little like Malcolm Wallace without the glassesIndeed it does Shane.
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Re: Oswald - innocent in a court of law

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kenmurray wrote:Shane wrote:Great post, Ken. I've never seen this before. It looks a little like Malcolm Wallace without the glassesIndeed it does Shane. Malcolm Wallace and Richard Cain also looked very similar. Jimmy Files said he saw Cain in Dealey Plaza on 11/22/1963.
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