Paul May Admits to JFK Back of Head Wound

[RobertP]

In a bizarre turn of events, infamous Lone Nutter "Paul May" has actually admitted that JFK had a large gaping wound in the right rear of his head, in a location the official autopsy photos do not show a wound.Here is the excerpt from JFKAssassinationForum.com: Reply Paul May Today at 03:03:43 PM Super Member Posts: 4937 As a guest, you are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginQuote from David Lifton:"That's not true. Just as an example, see my Chapter 13, on the head wounds. I report an extensive conversation that I had--circa November or December 1966--with the late Dr. Peters. He was describing, in detail, the size and shape of what is called the "large" head wound. He said that the wound was the size of "a hen's egg" , that it was located at the bottom of the back of the head, and that he could look inside and see the occipital lobes of the brain resting against the foramen magnum. (As you probably know, the foramen magnum is the hole in the occipital bone, which wraps around and forms part of the underside of the skull). So this was a very vivid description--and is but one example (of many). There is one small footnote to this story that I have always found amusing. When Peters said "hen's egg," I--being a "city boy"--was wondering just what the heck he meant. Was that a very large hole? I said that the only "egg" I knew was the one you bought, by the dozen, at the market. Yes, he said, emphatically, that's what he was talking about. But isn't that a chicken egg? I asked. No no, he said, correcting my rather amusing misunderstanding. The egg comes from a hen! Anyway, ever since that conversation, and because of the certainty with which Peters spoke, I have always given great credence to the "McClelland diagram" which shows exactly that--a hole at the bottom of the back of the head, slightly on the right hand side. Of course, this is certainly not what was seen at Bethesda, where the wound extended all the way forward, and was described as "chiefly" in the parietal bone. DSL"Paul May replies:Yet, here is how Dr. Peters testified in 1964 before ever meeting Lifton:Mr. SPECTER - What did you observe as to the nature of the President's wound? Dr. PETERS - Well, as I mentioned, the neck wound had already been interfered with by the tracheotomy at the time I got there, but I noticed the head wound, and as I remember--I noticed that there was a large defect in the occiput. Mr. SPECTER - What did you notice in the occiput? Dr. PETERS - It seemed to me that in the right occipitalparietal area that there was a large defect. There appeared to be bone loss and brain loss in the area. Mr. SPECTER - Did you notice any holes below the occiput, say, in this area below here? Dr. PETERS - No, I did not and at the time and the moments immediately following the injury, we speculated as to whether he had been shot once or twice because we saw the wound of entry in the throat and noted the large occipital wound, and it is a known fact that high velocity missiles often have a small wound of entrance and a large wound of exit, and I'm just giving you my honest impressions at the time. Peters is stating the wound to be in the RIGHT (not rear) occipitalparietal area. The wound was occipitalparietal. There is no confusion about this. ------------------------- End QuoteJust to help Mr. May out here, here is the diagram again showing where the occipital bone and the parietal bone are located in the human skull:



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[RobertP]

The above excerpt is from a thread started by Paul May, on the JFKAssassinationForum.com , titled "ED Forum falling apart". It can be found at this link http://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/in ... .0.htmlThe thread itself is amusing as it highlights the ultimate purpose of the JFK Assassination Forum, namely, to destroy any serious discussion about the possibility of a conspiracy in the murder of JFK through any means available.The discussion about the back of head wound begins on Page 4 and continues to Page 5. It is amusing to see the point at which Paul May realizes he has put his foot in his mouth and admitted to JFK having a large gaping wound in the right rear portion of his skull. Of course, in true Nutter fashion, he continues to argue and chastise even when it is painfully obvious he doesn't have a leg to stand on.



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[Bruce Patrick Brychek]

05.04.2013Dear Mr. Robert P.:Robert - I have found you to be a very analytical, well read, well researched, studiouswriter, with laser like precision to your renderings. You are not emotionally driven,and are well thought out in all of your presentations. Your documentation I find tobe par excellance. People such as you and I, I find that we agree with about 90 % + of the time. When we agree to disagree, do not be upset. We are not robots.I have found that Mr. Wim Dankbaar's JFK Murder Solved Forum has been the best, most consistent, most focused medium for the inter-related subject matters coveredherein. There are World Class Members and Researchers here. Wim has maintained thefinest JFK Forum, bar none, in the world, in my opinion.There are, and have been many great contributors. It is no secret that Messrs. Bob Fox,Phil Dragoo, Ken Murray, and Michael Calder are my favorites. Mr. Tom Jeffers, deceased,was a great former member here, and an extremely close personal friend of J and B. Tomdid extensive research and writing for J and B for our own works, which Tom was to beincluded in. Respects to his memory.I am the closest, oldest living friend of Mr. James Earl Sutton - Files, and have knownhim from Chicago, Illinois, since the 1960's. Jimmy, Lieutenant Colonel Dan "DangerousDan" Marvin, Deceased, and myself all grew up in the same vicinity. In point of fact, I nowlive near where Marvin lived. We had many common friends. Many are still alive. I continueto have access to many "unknowns." Marvin also knew of Jimmy's history, involvement, andconnections. Marvin substantiated much more than he ever released. He was working on severaladditional, supportive projects at the time his death. Much of that focuses on Chicago, Illinois.Respects also to Danny Boy, as we called him.Ms. Antoinette Giancana, daughter of the late Sam Giancana, wrote Jimmy in prison,AND ASKED HIS PERMISSION TO VISIT HIM, AND INCLUDE JIMMY IN HER BOOK, JFK and SAM. I have the notes. In Chicago this is known and accepted as commonknowledge. This is not on Wikipedia, and elsewhere it is ignored or not believed because arm chair researchers can't find a synopsis with the push of a button.Ms. Giancana as a young girl saw Uncle Tony Accardo, Father Sam Giancana, UncleJohnny Roselli, Uncle Charles Nicoletti, Jimmy Files, and a veritable laundry list ofNon - Existent Chicago Family Members regularly. Nicoletti was seldom at Giancana'shome without Files. This is all documented.While J. Edgar Hoover was busy telling the public and fellow FBI agents that there was No Family, No Mafia, No Organized Crime, etc., we in Chicago long knew of Al Capone,and his successors, and the trail of all of their actions and involvements. This is all documented.It was no secret in Chicago that the Mafia and the Unions helped fix the 1960 PresidentialElection for Joe Kennedy, Sr.'s benefit for his Senator son, JFK. Mayor Richard M. Daley wasthen the First Mayor in the History of the United States personally invited by a New Presidentto sleep in the White House. It was no secret in Chicago that the Mafia, that allegedly still didn't really exist according to many, assisted in the Assassination of JFK. The Chicago Outfit's support of the JFKAssassination in Chicago was not forthcoming because Accardo and Giancana, and theirmajor Lieutenant's all resided in Chicago. In addition, Jacob Rubinstein, was earlier banishedand granted a reprieve by the Chicago Outfit. He was permitted to surface and work for themin Dallas, Texas as Jack Ruby.I visit Jimmy weekly and monthly, and we have been developing our own body of worksthat is now quite focused, intense, and substantial. We visit from 600 - 1,200 hours peryear. Some of your research and points are spot on, and I have discussed and reviewedsome of your analyses and material very closely. In fact we re-created the JFK Event fromstart to finish recently. Jimmy is quite familiar with head shots, and their intense destruction going back to Viet Nam, Laos, and Cambodia. Comments that you made about head shotsto deer were very first hand, knowing, and revealing. Ammunition that I use is commonly known as Hydro Shocks. Your previous analysis was exacting.Robert, at your convenience, send me a Personal Message on the JFK Murder Solved ForumPersonal System. I would like to exchange personal emails with you. I have a very closerelationship with several members here, and a specific group around the world. I wouldlike to trade thoughts with you from time to time.Comments ?Respectfully,BB.

[Ray Mitcham]

RobertP wrote:The above excerpt is from a thread started by Paul May, on the JFKAssassinationForum.com , titled "ED Forum falling apart". It can be found at this link http://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/in ... .0.htmlThe thread itself is amusing as it highlights the ultimate purpose of the JFK Assassination Forum, namely, to destroy any serious discussion about the possibility of a conspiracy in the murder of JFK through any means available.The discussion about the back of head wound begins on Page 4 and continues to Page 5. It is amusing to see the point at which Paul May realizes he has put his foot in his mouth and admitted to JFK having a large gaping wound in the right rear portion of his skull. Of course, in true Nutter fashion, he continues to argue and chastise even when it is painfully obvious he doesn't have a leg to stand on.untitled.png

[Bob]

You might want to classify Paul May and people like him into this category...http://www.brasschecktv.com/videos/gove ... nment.html

[kenmurray]

Bob wrote:You might want to classify Paul May and people like him into this category...http://www.brasschecktv.com/videos/gove ... htmlThat's for sure.

[RobertP]

Ray Mitcham wrote:RobertP wrote:The above excerpt is from a thread started by Paul May, on the JFKAssassinationForum.com , titled "ED Forum falling apart". It can be found at this link http://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/in ... .0.htmlThe thread itself is amusing as it highlights the ultimate purpose of the JFK Assassination Forum, namely, to destroy any serious discussion about the possibility of a conspiracy in the murder of JFK through any means available.The discussion about the back of head wound begins on Page 4 and continues to Page 5. It is amusing to see the point at which Paul May realizes he has put his foot in his mouth and admitted to JFK having a large gaping wound in the right rear portion of his skull. Of course, in true Nutter fashion, he continues to argue and chastise even when it is painfully obvious he doesn't have a leg to stand on.untitled.png

[RobertP]

Bob wrote:You might want to classify Paul May and people like him into this category...http://www.brasschecktv.com/videos/gove ... nt.htmlJFK forum trolls paid by the government to post disinformation ?!?!?! Say it aint so, Bob!!!

[Bob]

This is the Carl Bernstein article in Rolling Stone called CIA and the Media...In 1953, Joseph Alsop, then one of America’s leading syndicated columnists, went to the Philippines to cover an election. He did not go because he was asked to do so by his syndicate. He did not go because he was asked to do so by the newspapers that printed his column. He went at the request of the CIA.Alsop is one of more than 400 American journalists who in the past twenty-five years have secretly carried out assignments for the Central Intelligence Agency, according to documents on file at CIA headquarters.Some of these journalists’ relationships with the Agency were tacit; some were explicit. There was cooperation, accommodation and overlap. Journalists provided a full range of clandestine services -- from simple intelligence gathering to serving as go-betweens with spies in Communist countries. Reporters shared their notebooks with the CIA. Editors shared their staffs. Some of the journalists were Pulitzer Prize winners, distinguished reporters who considered themselves ambassadors-without-portfolio for their country. Most were less exalted: foreign correspondents who found that their association with the Agency helped their work; stringers and freelancers who were as interested it the derring-do of the spy business as in filing articles, and, the smallest category, full-time CIA employees masquerading as journalists abroad. In many instances, CIA documents show, journalists were engaged to perform tasks for the CIA with the consent of the managements America’s leading news organizations.The history of the CIA’s involvement with the American press continues to be shrouded by an official policy of obfuscation and deception...Among the executives who lent their cooperation to the Agency were William Paley of the Columbia Broadcasting System, Henry Luce of Time Inc., Arthur Hays Sulzberger of the New York Times, Barry Bingham Sr. of the Louisville Courier-Journal and James Copley of the Copley News Service. Other organizations which cooperated with the CIA include the American Broadcasting Company, the National Broadcasting Company, the Associated Press, United Press International, Reuters, Hearst Newspapers, Scripps-Howard, Newsweek magazine, the Mutual Broadcasting System, The Miami Herald, and the old Saturday Evening Post and New York Herald-Tribune. By far the most valuable of these associations, according to CIA officials, have been with The New York Times, CBS, and Time Inc.From the Agency’s perspective, there is nothing untoward in such relationships, and any ethical questions are a matter for the journalistic profession to resolve, not the intelligence community...Many journalists were used by the CIA to assist in this process and they had the reputation of being among the best in the business. The peculiar nature of the job of the foreign correspondent is ideal for such work; he is accorded unusual access, by his host country, permitted to travel in areas often off-limits to other Americans, spends much of his time cultivating sources in governments, academic institutions, the military establishment and the scientific communities. He has the opportunity to form long-term personal relationships with sources and -- perhaps more than any other category of American operative - is in a position to make correct judgments about the susceptibility and availability of foreign nationals for recruitment as spies.The Agency’s dealings with the press began during the earliest stages of the Cold War. Allen Dulles, who became director of the CIA in 1953, sought to establish a recruiting-and-cover capability within America’s most prestigious journalistic institutions. By operating under the guise of accredited news correspondents, Dulles believed, CIA operatives abroad would be accorded a degree of access and freedom of movement unobtainable under almost any other type of cover.American publishers, like so many other corporate and institutional leaders at the time, were willing us commit the resources of their companies to the struggle against “global Communism.” Accordingly, the traditional line separating the American press corps and government was often indistinguishable: rarely was a news agency used to provide cover for CIA operatives abroad without the knowledge and consent of either its principal owner; publisher or senior editor. Thus, contrary to the notion that the CIA era and news executives allowed themselves and their organizations to become handmaidens to the intelligence services. “Let’s not pick on some poor reporters, for God’s sake,” William Colby exclaimed at one point to the Church committee’s investigators. “Let’s go to the managements. They were witting” In all, about twenty-five news organizations (including those listed at the beginning of this article) provided cover for the Agency...Many journalists who covered World War II were close to people in the Office of Strategic Services, the wartime predecessor of the CIA; more important, they were all on the same side. When the war ended and many OSS officials went into the CIA, it was only natural that these relationships would continue.Meanwhile, the first postwar generation of journalists entered the profession; they shared the same political and professional values as their mentors. “You had a gang of people who worked together during World War II and never got over it,” said one Agency official. “They were genuinely motivated and highly susceptible to intrigue and being on the inside. Then in the Fifties and Sixties there was a national consensus about a national threat. The Vietnam War tore everything to pieces - shredded the consensus and threw it in the air.” Another Agency official observed: “Many journalists didn’t give a second thought to associating with the Agency. But there was a point when the ethical issues which most people had submerged finally surfaced. Today, a lot of these guys vehemently deny that they had any relationship with the Agency.”The CIA even ran a formal training program in the 1950s to teach its agents to be journalists. Intelligence officers were “taught to make noises like reporters,” explained a high CIA official, and were then placed in major news organizations with help from management. “These were the guys who went through the ranks and were told, “You’re going to be a journalist,” the CIA official said. Relatively few of the 400-some relationships described in Agency files followed that pattern, however; most involved persons who were already bona fide journalists when they began undertaking tasks for the Agency. The Agency’s relationships with journalists, as described in CIA files, include the following general categories:* Legitimate, accredited staff members of news organizations - usually reporters. Some were paid; some worked for the Agency on a purely voluntary basis.* Stringers and freelancers. Most were payrolled by the Agency under standard contractual terms.* Employees of so-called CIA “proprietaries.” During the past twenty-five years, the Agency has secretly bankrolled numerous foreign press services, periodicals and newspapers -- both English and foreign language -- which provided excellent cover for CIA operatives.* Columnists and commentators. There are perhaps a dozen well-known columnists and broadcast commentators whose relationships with the CIA go far beyond those normally maintained between reporters and their sources. They are referred to at the Agency as “known assets” and can be counted on to perform a variety of undercover tasks; they are considered receptive to the Agency’s point of view on various subjects.Murky details of CIA relationships with individuals and news organizations began trickling out in 1973 when it was first disclosed that the CIA had, on occasion, employed journalists. Those reports, combined with new information, serve as casebook studies of the Agency’s use of journalists for intelligence purposes.The New York Times - The Agency’s relationship with the Times was by far its most valuable among newspapers, according to CIA officials. [It was] general Times policy to provide assistance to the CIA whenever possible...CIA officials cite two reasons why the Agency’s working relationship with the Times was closer and more extensive than with any other paper: the fact that the Times maintained the largest foreign news operation in American daily journalism; and the close personal ties between the men who ran both institutions...The Columbia Broadcasting System -- CBS was unquestionably the CIA’s most valuable broadcasting asset. CBS president William Paley and Allen Dulles enjoyed an easy working and social relationship. Over the years, the network provided cover for CIA employees, including at least one well-known foreign correspondent and several stringers; it supplied outtakes of newsfilm to the CIA; established a formal channel of communication between the Washington bureau chief and the Agency; gave the Agency access to the CBS newsfilm library; and allowed reports by CBS correspondents to the Washington and New York newsrooms to be routinely monitored by the CIA. Once a year during the 1950s and early 1960s, CBS correspondents joined the CIA hierarchy for private dinners and briefings...At the headquarters of CBS News in New York, Paley’s cooperation with the CIA is taken for granted by many news executives and reporters, despite the denials. Paley, 76, was not interviewed by Salant’s investigators. “It wouldn’t do any good,” said one CBS executive. “It is the single subject about which his memory has failed.”Time and Newsweek magazines - According to CIA and Senate sources, Agency files contain written agreements with former foreign correspondents and stringers for both the weekly news magazines. The same sources refused to say whether the CIA has ended all its associations with individuals who work for the two publications. Allen Dulles often interceded with his good friend, the late Henry Luce, founder of Time and Life magazines, who readily allowed certain members of his staff to work for the Agency and agreed to provide jobs and credentials for other CIA operatives who lacked journalistic experience...At Newsweek, Agency sources reported, the CIA engaged the services of several foreign correspondents and stringers under arrangements approved by senior editors at the magazine...“To the best of my knowledge:’ said [Harry] Kern, [Newsweek’s foreign editor from 1945 to 1956] “nobody at Newsweek worked for the CIA.... The informal relationship was there. Why have anybody sign anything? What we knew we told them [the CIA] and the State Department.... When I went to Washington, I would talk to Foster or Allen Dulles about what was going on .... We thought it was admirable at the time. We were all on the same side.” CIA officials say that Kern's dealings with the Agency were extensive...When Newsweek was purchased by the Washington Post Company, publisher Philip L. Graham was informed by Agency officials that the CIA occasionally used the magazine for cover purposes, according to CIA sources. “It was widely known that Phil Graham was somebody you could get help from,” said a former deputy director of the Agency... But Graham, who committed suicide in 1963, apparently knew little of the specifics of any cover arrangements with Newsweek, CIA sources said...Information about Agency dealings with the Washington Post newspaper is extremely sketchy. According to CIA officials, some Post stringers have been CIA employees, but these officials say they do not know if anyone in the Post management was aware of the arrangements...Other major news organizations - According to Agency officials, CIA files document additional cover arrangements with the following news gathering organizations, among others: the New York Herald Tribune, Saturday Evening Post, Scripps-Howard Newspapers, Hearst Newspapers, Associated Press, United Press International, the Mutual Broadcasting System, Reuters and The Miami Herald...“And that's just a small part of the list,” in the words of one official who served in the CIA hierarchy. Like many sources, this official said that the only way to end the uncertainties about aid furnished the Agency by journalists is to disclose the contents of the CIA files - a course opposed by almost all of the thirty-five present and former CIA officials interviewed over the course of a year.The CIA’s use of journalists continued virtually unabated until 1973 when, in response to public disclosure that the Agency had secretly employed American reporters, William Colby began scaling down the program. In his public statements, Colby conveyed the impression that the use of journalists had been minimal and of limited importance to the Agency.He then initiated a series of moves intended to convince the press, Congress and the public that the CIA had gotten out of the news business. But according to Agency officials, Colby had in fact thrown a protective net around his most valuable intelligence assets in the journalistic community...At the headquarters of CBS News in New York, Paley’s cooperation with the CIA is taken for granted by many news executives and reporters, despite the denials. Paley, 76, was not interviewed by Salant’s investigators. “It wouldn’t do any good,” said one CBS executive. “It is the single subject about which his memory has failed.”After Colby left the Agency on January 28th, 1976, and was succeeded by George Bush, the CIA announced a new policy: “Effective immediately, the CIA will not enter into any paid or contract relationship with any full-time or part-time news correspondent accredited by any US news service, newspaper, periodical, radio or television network or station.” ... The text of the announcement noted that the CIA would continue to “welcome” the voluntary, unpaid cooperation of journalists. Thus, many relationships were permitted to remain intact.

[Bob]

See the last paragraph of Bernstein's story...After Colby left the Agency on January 28th, 1976, and was succeeded by George Bush, the CIA announced a new policy: “Effective immediately, the CIA will not enter into any paid or contract relationship with any full-time or part-time news correspondent accredited by any US news service, newspaper, periodical, radio or television network or station.” ... The text of the announcement noted that the CIA would continue to “welcome” the voluntary, unpaid cooperation of journalists. Thus, many relationships were permitted to remain intact. Unpaid cooperation? How much did Vince Bugliosi get for writing his door stop...er...book Reclaiming History? What are the salaries of journalistic hacks like Bill O'Reilly and Chris Matthews who continue to pin the entire assassination on that lone nut, commie Oswald? What about Larry Dunkel's...er...Gary Mack's salary at the 6th Floor Museum? Like I always say...follow the money.