"Oswald" in Mexico - the focal point of coverup

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David Octopus
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"Oswald" in Mexico - the focal point of coverup

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http://www.jfklancer.com/backes/newman/

All the old pros probably know it very well but might be interesting for the newbies. This is a time line reconstructed after the JFK act documentation release of the late 90s. Which basically shows how the "Oswald" his impersonator(s) link to KGB dept 13 (assassinations) has been carefully planted before and after November and in such places and circumstances within the government where only some US moles could have done it.

Also, it nicely documents how crucial were the first hours and days after the assassination when Johnson and Hoover used it to twist people like Warren and Russel and others to go with the "lone nutter theory" and coverup. The way how they applied the presure was that possible WWIII is at stake etc..

LBJ informs Russell he is on Commission :@ ) and mentions "Oswald" in Mexico thingy:
http://www.history-matters.com/archive/ ... 63_2nd.htm

Because the embarasment and perhaps also fear they could be next in the line stemming from the fact that some "rightwing" moles inflitrated all of the agencies in setting up "Oswald" as Russian-Cuban plot assassin the cover up commenced immediately. Also Oswald had file since 1959 which was another embarrasment..

That however, doesn't mean than Johnson wasn't somehow on the plot directly as well but that's another story and no hard evidence is available yet. For one thing, we know for sure he immediately reversed all the important JFK policies so he just went along because of combination of fear (got the message), and perhaps different personal opinion on these policies anyway etc..

The author John Newman has done some good and important 9/11 research too recently.. Google his 9/11 Comm review panel testimony, it has been just released by the rep. McKinney office it's like 300pages.

Pretty good stuff the entire report, basically 'inside job' proven beyond reasonable doubt at least from the LIHOP perspective. I'm personaly leaning towards something between LIHOP and MIHOP, Cheney was in charge of the NORAD stand down, and some other people on the board used the opportunity to knock down the WTC7 bldg later the same day with all that Wallstreet dirt laundery of the stock market frauds of late 90s which have been investigated etc..

We have got nowadays something like 5 experts (PhD, demo experts) internationaly in blds statics and construction who claim the WTC7 was controlled demolition (CT) with the highest probability..

Sometimes I feel the more aggresive 9/11 truthers are just muddying the waters, because the LIHOP case is pretty strong, and by introducing controversial issues like CT of WTC1,2 and no plane at Pentagon.

On the other hand these "radicals" brought the most attention to the movement so I do not know I might be wrong about them..

Well, the LIHOP v. MIHOP is crap anyway, we know 15highjackers got visas from US Saudi consulate against the procedural code (CIA station) where mujahedins were served similarly in the late 80s. Uncle Cheney was in charge of air defense since summer till 9/11, war games were rescheduled to 9/11 and evidently crippled the US air defense system. So in any case we have got air tight case. Just to find a prosecutor.

At the minimum we can get them on negligence, perjury etc. since they apparently have been warned SPECIFICALLY about airplanes used as missiles before 9/11 and then lied about it. So at least Condi, Ari, Cheney, Bush are ready for jumpsuits..
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Oswald's impersonator and CIA/FBI wires after the assass.

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The importance of those FBI/CIA wires about Oswald's impersonator in Mexico and the attempt to frame it up like Oswald-Cuba-KGB operation in the hours after assassanitation as shown by Dr. Newman's timeline based on the released documentation are most probably one of the jewels of the case.

Recently, I've followed a related discussion about Oswald at Wikipedia, where someone did post the same info, firstly one moron declared LBJ tapes (they discuss the impersonator) not to be an evidence and then they erased it completely, huh. So, again there is not a word about this in the Mexico section of the Oswald article and discussion..

It's not unlike they used to delete links and info about Files from the JFK articles..
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Post by David Octopus »

Just found quite fantastic additional site about the whole Mexican monkey business. Watch the videos, documents and audio archive..

http://www.maryferrell.org/wiki/index.p ... Minute_Gap
http://www.maryferrell.org/wiki/index.p ... City_Tapes


They have got also good site on RFK as well..
"The Plot to Kill Robert Kennedy." documentary link inside
-> The lost treasure with the 1968-71 TV footage by Ted Charach and Gerard Alcan
http://www.maryferrell.org/wiki/index.p ... rt_Kennedy
http://conspiracycentral.net:6969/stats ... a9209ff210

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Found some RFK videos:
-BBC Newsnight about Morales and other CIA people at Ambassador Hotel
-Excerpt from H-channel on RFK assass. - featuring the late prof. Phil Melanson
http://conspiracycentral.info/index.php?showtopic=4450
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Post by Bob »

Great information David. The RFK link is must see. The "Second Gun" by Ted Charach is an incredible movie that points the blame to the real RFK assassin...Eugene Thane Cesar. Cesar was the security guard that was directly behind RFK at the time of the shooting. A witness saw Cesar draw his gun and fire. The witness was a reporter who immediately reported this to the television station he worked for. Cesar also worked at Lockheed and had right wing leanings and voted for George Wallace in 1968. He was on record about hating the Kennedys. Yet this man was assigned as a security guard to "protect" RFK. Thomas Naguchi, the L.A. coroner said that all 3 wounds to RFK, including the fatal head shot came from behind and to the right of the Senator. That was precisely where Cesar was. The fatal head wound was fired from a distance of 1-3 inches away from Kennedy's head. Sirhan never got closer than 3-6 feet away from RFK and was also always in front of Kennedy. Cesar started firing as soon as the crowd was distracted by Sirhan firing his weapon. Even with all this, the L.A. police never tested Cesar's weapon for being fired that night. Speculation is that Cesar fired a .22 caliber handgun at RFK . Cesar had a .38 caliber handgun in his holster, but also owned a .22 caliber weapon that he pulled from his pocket when Sirhan started shooting. Cesar suspiciously sold this weapon just months after the assassination.
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Gaeton Fonzi original not redacted manuscript

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Old pros are well versed in this story but for newbies like me it is very interesting and another treasure value material.

The account of Gaeton Fonzi (author Last investigation) about the 1970s investigations is just fantastic source of material and also provides a living picture of these days.

Major summary points:

- the anti-castro radical cuban groups were most probably cooperating on some level with the CIA into at least late 70s

- the anti-castro cubans were spreading the false "Oswald-Mexi-Castro" connection news immediately after the assass. of JFK through the CIA propaganda machine

- the HSCA panel has been setup purposly as a "report delivering" body not an investigative body. The HSCA panel and Blakey colluded with some of the important investigation leads, mainly in the Oswald -> anti-castro cubans -> CIA connection. Blakey was probably chosen as chair to focus only on the organized crime theory.

- in the end the HSCA panel buried the most important testimonies such as about D.A. Phillips role in the ass. or Silvia Odio testimony about Oswald's direct link to anti-castro radicals.

HSCA had the opportunity to crack the case but was set up to fail via various administrative traps and funding obstacles, which demolished the investigation teams in the middle of the committee lifespan.

- D.A. Phillips' identity matched beyoned reasonable doubt profile of Maurice Bishop even by the account of his own family members, hah

- The senator "Schweiker" report from the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence (Church committee) in 1976 was the first gov/official acknowledgment that Warren comm. was deficiant.

- "Lopez Report" part of HSCA, declassified only by 1996-2003 proves beyond reasonable doubt and in sync with the LBJ's tapes that Oswald has been framed up and impostered by someone (calls, photos) in Mexico. CIA then furnished this myth information immediately to FBI. But FBI learned in Dallas during Oswald interogation period that these belong to different individual.

Gaeton Fonzi very detailed history (long read) on the Church and HSCA panels he worked on:
http://cuban-exile.com/doc_001-025/doc0019a.html

"Lopez report" about Oswald-Mexi-AntiCastro Cubans, part of HSCA
http://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/h ... ntents.htm

Schweiker Report on JFK (Book V of Church):
http://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/churc ... ntents.htm
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"Oswald" in Mexico - the focal point of coverup

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10.27.2012Dear JFK Murder Solved Forum Members and Readers:09.17.2006 - Mr. David Octopus Posted this Headline and some interesting material followed on this subject matter. There is much more to this entire scope of the subject matter than has ever been revealed, or made sense for that matter.10.26.2012 - Any more recent analyses, interviews, investigations, readings, research, studies, thoughts, or writings on any aspect of the subject matter ?Comments ?Respectfully,BB.
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Re: "Oswald" in Mexico - the focal point of coverup

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Robert Clayton Buick tends to say he met Oswald in Mexico?His last book is called "Assassination" and is available on Kindle.
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"Oswald" in Mexico - the focal point of coverup:

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11.02.2013Dear JFK Murder Solved Forum Members and Readers:09.17.2006 - Mr. David Octopus Posted this intelligent Headline thatdeserves much more attention today.This should be considered in conjunction with the other LHO Headlinesand Posts here on the JFK Murder Solved Forum.Any more recent analyses, interviews, investigations, readings, research,studies, thoughts, or writings on any aspect of this subject matter ?Comments ?Respectfully,BB.
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Re: "Oswald" in Mexico - the focal point of coverup

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I don't believe for one minute that LHO was ever at the Cuban Consulate in Mexico City on 9/28/63. If he was, there would be pictures taken of him from the camera's there and would be on every newspaper in America after 11/22/63! http://www.maryferrell.org/wiki/index.p ... et_Preface
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