Fidel.....

[Pennyworth]

Pennyworth wrote:http://www.business-standard.com/lifele ... 0&tab=rHis ability to first build an ideological barrier and then reach out successfully to elements from across that boundary is seen in the political sphere as well. He builds on his relationship with the former US president, Jimmy Carter, calling him “one of that country’s most honest presidents” (p. 405). He also presents himself as a great friend of the Kennedy family, suggesting at one point that John Kennedy may have been assassinated because “he showed himself to be reasonable” (p. 289) during the Cuban Missile crisis

[Pennyworth]

Oswald speaks....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vy9k5C94 ... vey_Oswald

[Bob]

See this from Jim DiEugenio's review of JFK And The Unspeakable by James Douglass...One of the book's most notable achievements is the 3-D picture of the Castro-Kennedy back channel of 1963. Douglass' work on this episode is detailed, complete, and illuminating in more ways than one. From a multiplicity of books, periodicals, and interviews, the author produces not opinions or spin on what happened. And not after the fact, wishy-washy post-mortems. But actual first-hand knowledge of the negotiations by the people involved in them.It started in January of 1963. Attorney John Donovan had been negotiating the release of the Bay of Pigs prisoners when Castro's physician and aide Rene Vallejo broached the subject of normalizing relations with the USA (p. 56). Right here, Douglass subtly tells us something important. For Vallejo would not have broached such a subject without Castro's permission. In approaching these talks, Dean Rusk and the State Department wanted to establish preconditions. Namely that Cuba would have to break its Sino/Soviet ties. Kennedy overruled this qualification with the following: "We don't want to present Castro with a condition that he obviously cannot fulfill." NSC assistant Gordon Chase explained Kennedy's intercession, "The President himself is very interested in this one." (pgs. 57-58)Because the State Department was cut in at the start, the CIA got wind of the opening. Douglass makes the case that David Phillips and the Cuban exiles reacted by having the militant group Alpha 66 begin to raid Russian ships sailing toward Cuba. Antonio Veciana later stated that Phillips had arranged the raids because, "Kennedy would have to be forced to make a decision and the only way was to put him up against the wall." (p. 57) The initial raid was followed by another a week later.Phillips did indeed force Kennedy into making a decision. At the end of March, the Justice Department began to stop Cuban exiles from performing these raids off of American territory. This resulted in crackdowns and arrests in Florida and Louisiana. And it was this crackdown that provoked a bitter falling out between the leaders of the CIA created Cuban Revolutionary Council and President Kennedy. Dr. Jose Miro Cardona stated that the "struggle for Cuba was in the process of being liquidated" for "every refugee has received his last allotment this month, forcing them to relocate." (p. 59) The CRC had been a special project of both Phillips and Howard Hunt. As the Associated Press further reported in April, "The dispute between the Cuban exile leaders and the Kennedy administration was symbolized here today by black crepe hung from the doors of exiles' homes." (Ibid)Clearly, Kennedy was changing both speeds and direction. At this time, Donovan visited Castro and raised the point of Kennedy clamping down on the exile groups. Castro replied to this with the provocative statement that his "ideal government was not to be Soviet oriented." (p. 60) When newscaster Lisa Howard visited Castro in late April, she asked how a rapprochement between the USA and Cuba could be achieved. Castro replied that the "Steps were already being taken" and Kennedy's limitations on the exile raids was the first one. (p. 61)As Douglass observes, every Castro overture for normalization up to that point had been noted by the CIA. And CIA Director John McCone urged "that no active steps be taken on the rapprochement matter at this time." (p. 61) Deftly, the author points out that-- almost simultaneous with this--Oswald inexplicably moves from Dallas to New Orleans to begin his high profile pro-Castro activities. And later that summer, CIA case officers will secretly meet with Rolando Cubela to begin another attempt on Castro's life.Oblivious to this, the back channel was now picked up and furthered by Howard and William Attwood. Howard reported that Castro was even more explicit now about dealing with Kennedy over the Russian influence in Cuba. He was willing to discuss Soviet personnel and military hardware on the island and even compensation for American lands and investments. The article she wrote at this time concluded with a request that a government official be sent to negotiate these matters with Fidel. (p. 70) This is where former journalist and then diplomat Attwood stepped in. Knowing that Attwood had talked with Castro before, Kennedy instructed him to make contact with Carlos Lechuga. Lechuga was Cuba's ambassador at the United Nations, and Kennedy felt this would be a logical next step to continue the dialogue and perhaps set some kind of agenda and parameters. Howard arranged the meeting between the two opposing diplomats. Attwood told Lechuga that Kennedy felt relations could not be changed overnight, but something "had to be done about it and a start had to be made." (p. 71) Lechuga replied that Castro had liked Kennedy's American University speech and he felt that Castro might OK a visit by Attwood to Cuba. This, of course, would have been a significant milestone.A funny and revealing thing happened next. Both sides alerted the other that they would be making boilerplate anti-Cuba and anti-America speeches. (Adlai Stevenson would be doing the anti-Cuba one at the UN.) This clearly implies that the players understood that while relations were warming in private, motions had to be gone through in public to please the pundit class.Howard then requested that Vallejo ask Castro if Fidel would approve a visit by Attwood in the near future. Attwood believed this message never got through to Castro. So Kennedy decided to get the message to Castro via Attwood's friend, French journalist Jean Daniel. (p. 72) What Kennedy told Daniel is somewhat stunning. Thankfully, and I believe for the first time in such a book, Douglass quotes it at length. I will summarize it here.Kennedy wanted Daniel to tell Castro that he understood the horrible exploitation, colonization, and humiliation the history of Cuba represented and that the people of Cuba had endured. He even painfully understood that the USA had been part of this during the Batista regime. Startlingly, he said he approved of Castro's declarations made in the Sierra Maestra Mountains. He added, "In the matter of the Batista regime, I am in agreement with the first Cuban revolutionaries. That is perfectly clear." Daniel was somewhat taken aback by these sentiments. But, Kennedy continued, the dilemma now was that Cuba -- because of its Soviet ties -- had become part of the Cold War. And this had led to the Missile Crisis. Kennedy felt that Khrushchev understood all these ramifications now, after that terrible thirteen days.The president concluded with this, "...but so far as Fidel Castro is concerned, I must say I don't know whether he realizes this, or even if he cares about it." Kennedy smiled and then ended Daniel's instructions with this: "You can tell me whether he does when you come back."Daniel then went to Havana. On November 19th Castro walked into his hotel. Fidel was fully aware of the Attwood/Lechuga meetings. He was also aware of Kennedy's briefing of Daniel. He had found out about this through Howard. In fact, he had told her he did not think it would be a good idea for him to meet Attwood in New York. He suggested that the meeting could be arranged by picking up Attwood in Mexico and flying him to Cuba. Castro also agreed that Che Guevara should be left out of the talks since he opposed their ultimate aim. Attwood said that Lechuga and he should meet to discuss a full agenda for a later meeting between himself and Castro. This was done per Kennedy's instructions, and JFK wanted to brief Attwood beforehand on what the agenda should be. Things were heading into a higher gear.Daniel was unaware of the above when Castro walked into his room for a six-hour talk about Kennedy. (pgs. 85-89) I won't even attempt to summarize this conversation. I will only quote Castro thusly, "Suddenly a president arrives on the scene who tries to support the interest of another class ... " Clearly elated by Daniel's message, Castro and the journalist spent a large part of the next three days together. Castro even stated that JFK could now become the greatest president since Lincoln.On the third day, Daniel was having lunch with Fidel when the phone rang. The news about Kennedy being shot in Dallas had arrived. Stunned, Castro hung up the phone, sat down and then repeated over and over, "This is bad news ... This is bad news ... This is bad news." (p. 89) A few moments later when the radio broadcast the report stating that Kennedy was now dead, Castro stood up and said, "Everything is changed. Everything is going to change." (p. 90)

[ThomZajac]

Years ago I read a book entitled "Kennedy and Kruschev." One of the central points was quite surprising; both Kennedy and Kruschev were interested in attempting to end the cold war, but governmental/military apparatus would routinely fail/refuse to execute their orders. This resistance was so prevalent that the two leaders had to set up secret back channels to communicate various ideas, and the shared the view that military forces were determined to sabotage any 'threats of peace.' The Kennedy/ Castro communications seem to support this interpretation as well.Fascinating and sad, and very likely right on the mark.

[j.j.c.bruinsma]

See on Dutch TV 14.oktober GREAT doku:638 ways to kill Castronever seen video,s off o.a.: Orlando Boschluis PosadaAntonio VecianaFelix RodriquesFamilie Bush........... The Killers of JFK..........?it,s on Google:http://video.google.nl/videoplay?docid= ... 1595164067#

[kenmurray]

The Sturgis Bullet:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXUpUhhz ... PL&index=2

[Pennyworth]

Fidel's Daughter Speaks..... Did Castro discuss JFK with his family? "When JFK was killed, he said 'they'll say I did it.'"Does anything happening under the Obama administration remind her of communism? "No. No one who goes to Martha's Vineyard for vacation is going to become a communist."What does she think of U.S. health care? "It sucks." Most countries with a public insurance option do better, she said. http://www.myabc50.com/mostpopular/stor ... Ag.cspxThe revolution was endless...http://www.watertowndailytimes.com/arti ... /310209973

[Pennyworth]

Fidel Is Fine....http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=11 ... =351020702

[kenmurray]

The Hidden Fidel Castro Assassination Plots:http://www.opednews.com/articles/The-Hi ... id=0&data=

[kenmurray]

Castro Figured Out The JFK Case In Five Days:http://www.ctka.net/2016/castro-speech/ ... peech.html