Presidents ; Past to Present

[Pennyworth]

Presidents Kennedy and Lincoln....It is said that only two U.S. Presidents: Abraham Lincoln and John Kennedy, were not either Masons or elite members of affiliated bodieshttp://www.whale.to/b/masonic_presidents_h.html

[Bob]

Interesting Paul. By the way, lot's of Presidential historians have said the Franklin Pierce was one of the worst Presidents of all-time. I think most will also agree that Dumbya Bu$h was among the worst as well...if not THE worst ever. What do these failures have in common? Dumbya's mom...Barbara...is a direct descendant of Pierce.

[tom jeffers]

follow this to the end.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USGSOViaulc

[ThomZajac]

Excellent link, Tom. Many of the thoughtful, intelligent people I know who don't believe JFK was killed as the result of a conspiracy, are essentially unwilling to seriously consider that a secret government- one higher than our constitutional one- exists. As I and many of the posters on this site believe, the decision to assassinate JFK emanated from that secret government. Johnson an Hoover were all too happy to help, of course, but the real power lies elsewhere. And that is a place some people are simply unwilling or unable to go. I think this is especially true for highly successful people- they don't want to believe the system that they have excelled in is not what it seems, and that revelation would invalid their success. It's sort of government as a religion.And now I will get off my soap box and stop preaching.....

[Pennyworth]

tom jeffers wrote:follow this to the end.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USGSOViaulcHello Tom,Thanks for posting the above linkI just came across this....http://www.nibirupedia.com/page_2.html

[Pennyworth]

The great enemy of the Truth is very often not the lie - deliberate, contrived, and dishonest - but the myth - persistent, persuasive and realistic. President John F Kennedy I have two great enemies, the southern army in front of me and the financial institutions in the rear. Of the two, the one in my rear is the greatest foe. The Government should create, issue and circulate all the currency and credit needed to satisfy the spending power of the Government and the buying power of consumers. Money will cease to be master and become the servant of humanity. Democracy will rise superior to the money power. - President Abraham Lincoln.

[Pennyworth]

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/regional/d ... PdXXdGWnEP

[Bob]

Yes...Paul. Also remember the source...the NY Post. I wouldn't even use the Post to line a cat litter box...it's that bad.

[kenmurray]

Bob wrote:Yes...Paul. Also remember the source...the NY Post. I wouldn't even use the Post to line a cat litter box...it's that bad. Bob, the same thing goes for Bugliosi's book.

[Pennyworth]

evil clowns cancelled..... Bill Clinton, George W. Bush cancel appearances in L.A., N.Y.The 42nd and 43rd presidents back out because promoters of the February panel discussion 'insisted on billing it as something it wasn't,' Clinton spokesman saysBy Mark Z. Barabak November 8, 2009Former Presidents Bill Clinton and George W. Bush on Saturday abruptly pulled out of a joint appearance scheduled for this winter in Los Angeles after growing unhappy with the way the event was being promoted. Earlier this week, the two called off an upcoming appearance in New York City."We canceled the event because of a violation of contract and a promoter who insisted on billing it as something it wasn't," said Matt McKenna, a spokesman for Clinton. David Sherzer, a spokesman for Bush, confirmed the event was off. McKenna said the forum was never intended to be a clash between the 42nd and 43rd presidents -- "the hottest ticket in political history," a news released called it -- but rather a moderated panel discussion. "It's unfortunate that an overeager promoter ruined the opportunity to hear a serious discussion of the issues between two former presidents who have a great deal of respect for each other," he said. Officials of the promotion company, hired by New York's Madison Square Garden, could not immediately be reached for comment. Democrat Clinton, who beat Bush's father in 1992 to win the presidency, and Republican Bush, who succeeded Clinton after defeating his vice president, Al Gore, in 2000, appeared together at an hourlong forum in Toronto in May. The two were set to appear Feb. 22 at Universal City's Gibson Amphitheatre as part of the American Jewish University's public lecture series. The appearance was announced in August, with tickets set to go on sale this week for $75 to $125. A second appearance was scheduled for Feb. 25 at Radio City Music Hall in New York, with tickets ranging from $60 to $160. McKenna would not discuss the fee passed up by the two former presidents, but they reportedly received $150,000 apiece for their Toronto appearance. McKenna said money was not a consideration in their decision to cancel the events. mark.barabak@latimes.com