JFK RFK MLK Assasination Forum - Archive

William Greer NOT complicit? Oh my! Well, I guess in a way it all gets back to the Zapruder film; did Greer- at the most crucial juncture of the shooting- bring the car to a virtual stop or not? The fact that DOZENS of witnesses say he did-that he applied the brakes and did not accelerate until after the president had been fatally hit- and the Zapruder film shows no such thing is more compelling evidence that the Zapruder film was altered.Even without a full stop Greer's actions were beyond belief for a man in his position.So Wim, are you of the opinion that Greer just happened to perform exactly as the conspirators would have wanted? That if he had performed better that the president would have made it out of Dealey Plaza alive and the assassination attempt would have been foiled- Kennedy struck but not fatally? Really?

I have found other forums if I want to talk. I am sure you will be on there fighting for James Files. Please Ban me for life. Anyone that discredits James Files hurts your book sales, etc. I really think you are in love with James Files. Not romantically, but really love the guy. You will probably go to his funeral. Files will most likely claim on his deathbed that he was full of shit. James Earl Files is a scumbag, piece of shit. Enjoy--- On Mon, 10/26/09, Wim Dankbaar <dank@xs4all.nl> wrote:From: Wim Dankbaar <dank@xs4all.nl>Subject: Re: SartiTo: "david watson" Date: Monday, October 26, 2009, 1:01 PMAh, finally showing true colors. Man, was I right about you! If you don't care, why did you bother in the first place, nagging me with all your questions? I don't know if you're a teenager or not, but you were right. It doesn't matter. You talk like a 12 year old, whether you are an adult or not. That's really stupid. What is Files now? A murderer or a conman? Or does he deserve the death penalty, just because you're angry you were caught in a mistake that you can't admit? Wim ----- Original Message ----- From: david watson To: Wim Dankbaar Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 8:51 PMSubject: Re: SartiThere are people on the web that really don't like you. Now, I see why. James Files is not your buddy. He is not your friend. He is a conman, a crook, a murderer, etc. He deserves the death penalty. No one cares about James Files. Most people think he is lying. No one cares about his confession, but you are out of your mind angry about something that no one cares about. Whatever Wim. He said Dealy Plaza. I said Dallas. The two are the same. I was mistaken because I thought Holt drove him into to Dallas, or Dealey Plaza that day. Again, both the same. Get a life Wim. Nobody Cares. I could give a shit if you ban me for life. Files was most likely the spotter anyway.--- On Mon, 10/26/09, Wim Dankbaar <dank@xs4all.nl> wrote:From: Wim Dankbaar <dank@xs4all.nl>Subject: Re: SartiTo: "david watson" Date: Monday, October 26, 2009, 12:45 PMThis what you said: David Watson wrote:James Files states in the video he came to Dallas with Nicoletti????????? You may stick your apology up yours! Meanwhile I'll await mine. I guess in vain, since it appears you are too stubborn too admit your mistake. Wim

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABG6Ocyf ... elatedI,ll stick to the animals,when they hunt in groups on the same goal they are more sucesfullBut perhaps wim could be a little more diplomatic sometimes,if i might say so.

First off, my thanks to you, Mr. Dankbaar for taking time to respond to some of my questions as I stumbled upon your site. I told you a bit about myself and made it clear that while no expert on any of the matters I questioned you about, I'm certainly not ignorant in them, and perhas maybe better qualified than many. After watching the interviews, I must say...I'm still not completely convinced about this man. Again, without boring anyone, I have extensive experience in interview/interrogation, and I watched these, though open-minded, very carefully. Files shows very few signs of being deceptive...I say very few, because he DOES show enough to make me wonder. His recolection of details is convincing enough, throughout MOST of his statements, to give him a good deal of credibility. One very glaring example, probably the most obvious to me, of where his story faltered a bit was his explaination of Ofc. Tippet's "killer" suddenly, and QUITE out of the blue, showing up at his hotel room. If you notice, he very casually and confindantly explains that he went to his room after dropping off the Sopranos (joke..the mob-guys) and drew the shades and proceded to very carefully clean himself. Again, with alll kinds of detail about hot wax, showers, lotion...then like a true tuff-guy...he went to sleep. It seems to me, as big a deal as this guy showing up would and SHOULD have been, THIS would have been the hi-light of THAT particular part of his story...not the wax, and the lotion and the shower...and his "going to sleep". It's later in the interview that he tells, again, complete with little details, about this cop-shooter showing up and..asking him to get rid of his gun. That whole part seemed very hokey. Again, from experience...people with a lot of time on their hands, especially intelligent and restless people, can concoct extremely elaborate and plausible stories. Even to the point they actually convince themselves. The hardest liars to catch are those who have thoroughly convinced themselves that they are not lying. His description of the "mercury bullet" was complet crap..sorry to say. If they really DID use the method he described, which HAS been done, though with only moderate success unless at very short range, then they were taking an enormous risk of missing, I don't care how good a marksman he was. Wax wouldn't have held up well, especially on such a high-velocity round...and one filled with liquid. The bullet will not fly right for very long. These are only a few things I picked up on pretty quickly. His mannerisms and body language, though subtle, tell me he's likely not telling the truth...though it could be argued, I supose that it's the result of him telling only "parts" of the truth. I'm just not sold on this guy. Thank you for letting me drone on here, the forum is great and again, I commend you Mr Dankbaar for your hard work on all of this.

Yes...Wim sometimes wears his emotions on his sleeves, but more times than not his read on people are correct. Based on David's notes to Wim, I think it is pretty abvious that Mr. Watson came to this forum with an agenda. That in itself is fine, but don't cloud how Nicoletti and Files got to Dallas with mistruths like David was inferring. It could have been a honest mistake or David was just confused about how Files traveled to Dallas. But I have read the book and seen the vids as well, and I never came to that conclusion. But we are all different. Like I have stated before, there are those in this forum that don't believe Files...or for that matter Holt. That still doesn't take away from the fantastic amount of JFK assassination material Wim has accumulated on this site. There are also those who believe Files...and Holt. Count me as one of those folks. Most here consider Robert Groden a leading research figure in the JFK assassination. Groden's own website has a link to this site and has never discounted the Files story. Jim Marrs interviewed Jimmy Files with Wim, and he is another leading figure in the JFK assassination research community. Our forum that is part of this site has a great group of people now who research persistently and intelligently. A lot of us have relationships with many leading figures in the JFK research community. We have done some great work ourselves. However, we have also had some people come to this forum with their own agendas (see disinformation). I won't name names, because it doesn't serve a purpose, but sooner or later these people show their real colors, either in this forum or in other forums. Or both. Bottom line, a lot of negative energy is used to to deflect those people and the true focus of why we are here is put aside for awhile. Just like in this instance.

That,s correct Bob sometimes emotions are hard to handle,i,m no different,so many discussions with people about the whole matter turned into a laurel and Hardy slapstick when i mentioned that kennedy absolutely was assassionated in the same way as Sadat or the Valentines day massacre.

Tony wrote:First off, my thanks to you, Mr. Dankbaar for taking time to respond to some of my questions as I stumbled upon your site. I told you a bit about myself and made it clear that while no expert on any of the matters I questioned you about, I'm certainly not ignorant in them, and perhas maybe better qualified than many. After watching the interviews, I must say...I'm still not completely convinced about this man. Again, without boring anyone, I have extensive experience in interview/interrogation, and I watched these, though open-minded, very carefully. Files shows very few signs of being deceptive...I say very few, because he DOES show enough to make me wonder. His recolection of details is convincing enough, throughout MOST of his statements, to give him a good deal of credibility. One very glaring example, probably the most obvious to me, of where his story faltered a bit was his explaination of Ofc. Tippet's "killer" suddenly, and QUITE out of the blue, showing up at his hotel room. If you notice, he very casually and confindantly explains that he went to his room after dropping off the Sopranos (joke..the mob-guys) and drew the shades and proceded to very carefully clean himself. Again, with alll kinds of detail about hot wax, showers, lotion...then like a true tuff-guy...he went to sleep. It seems to me, as big a deal as this guy showing up would and SHOULD have been, THIS would have been the hi-light of THAT particular part of his story...not the wax, and the lotion and the shower...and his "going to sleep". It's later in the interview that he tells, again, complete with little details, about this cop-shooter showing up and..asking him to get rid of his gun. That whole part seemed very hokey. Again, from experience...people with a lot of time on their hands, especially intelligent and restless people, can concoct extremely elaborate and plausible stories. Even to the point they actually convince themselves. The hardest liars to catch are those who have thoroughly convinced themselves that they are not lying. His description of the "mercury bullet" was complet crap..sorry to say. If they really DID use the method he described, which HAS been done, though with only moderate success unless at very short range, then they were taking an enormous risk of missing, I don't care how good a marksman he was. Wax wouldn't have held up well, especially on such a high-velocity round...and one filled with liquid. The bullet will not fly right for very long. These are only a few things I picked up on pretty quickly. His mannerisms and body language, though subtle, tell me he's likely not telling the truth...though it could be argued, I supose that it's the result of him telling only "parts" of the truth. I'm just not sold on this guy. Thank you for letting me drone on here, the forum is great and again, I commend you Mr Dankbaar for your hard work on all of this.Tony, why did you wait 12 days to land your first post? Would you please tell me your last name? Who is the kid in your avatar? Is it your son you are proud of? Wim

Yea, that is my middle son. If you can believe it, that mohawk was died green shortly after that photo. He was 6 and decided he wanted that haircut, so he got it for the summer. I had that picture put on a t-shirt and was it was almost used for a famous chopper (motocycle) builder's company. That boy's gonna be a biker like his 'ol man...but will likey raise 3 times the hell As for your question about my post...I had to travel, but I also wanted to take time to carefully read the material on your site, as well as watch the interviews a few times before I said anything. I also wanted to re-read some of the material I had gathered over the years. I'd like to make clear that in no way am I challenging you personally, nor trying to disrespect your hard work, nor in any way wanting to come off as if I feel I know more than anyone. I hope I have not come across this way, either in my email to you or my post here. I was remiss in not prefacing my post by stating it to be my humble opinion. I do apologize if anything I wrote came across confrontational or argumentitive, for that was/is not my intention. As I'm sure you do, I enjoy intelligent debate, and DO share the belief that we were fed a crap-sandwich on this whole thing. Believe me, I would love to know...but sadly...aside from actually killing him, "their" greatest success is that after all this time, the plain simple truth would be hard to accept. What's that old saying...the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist...So please accept my apology if I came off smug. I applaud you work in this, in truth I think you have provided more info and made a much more intelligent presentation than Stone did...though he probably got more money. Keep up the good work As for my last name, I must respectfully decline on that one. I am no one of any renowned, just a fella who always thought the whole thing was fishy. I think it's funny though, when the conservatives that bitch and complain about how nefarious the current government is...and talk about the "good old days" that we have supposedly gotten so far away from...they always want to skip this little chapter in their nostalgia. And this was BEFORE the hippies "ruined this country"

even if you do not think that jimmy was a shooter, he has too much information to be discounted and is coraborated with other testimony that he was unaware of in his interviews. i have a personal relationship with him and his best friend and find them both credible so i am beyond questioning his testimony. i think there is a different between uninfoirmed newbys and those trying to create a ruckus. i say try and help those who are uninformed and ignore the others but i am also not the one who gets personally attacked. i agree that if you are familiar with all this information here and are not exposed to it, some of the questions seem a little ignorant. some people do not want to research but want the condensed movie version. this case is too complicated. you cannot be spoon-fed the info, you have to put in your time and that will help you to develope your own personal views rather than those of others who dish out what they consider is the truth. even after many years after seeing everything, i go back and review the material, i find something i missed or i look at it a little different. the only thing that i hate is that this guy will go to other forums and trash wim. sometimes if you make an enemy your friend, he becomes your best friend. Namaste'

also the whole mercury filled bullet issue in my opinion is this:some people become experts at their craft and although most people who have created a mercury bullet have found them unreliable in shooting long distances. could that be why all of his ammo was specially done by wolfman. he was probably that expert after all there were probably guys in chicago that would have been closer for jimmy to buy from. i think also the distance was only about 35 yards, maybe less. if you ever been to dealy plaza, you will find out it is much smaller than it looks in the films.namaste'