MANNLICHER CARCANO v. 7.65 MAUSER

[Dealey Joe]

Edit postDelete postReport this postInformationReply with quoteMannlicher-Carcano v. 7.65 Mauserby Andrew Wilt » Sun Nov 20, 2011 2:19 pm I just joined so this is probably going to be a naive newbie question. I have read a few books on the assassination and seen Oliver Stone's film and seen some videos. Relative to the three shell casings found in the so called sniper's nest, it has been said that they were definitely fired in the rifle that was found on the 6th floor. But I haven't seen or read if tests were done to determine if they were fired in the rifle at the time JFK was shot or at an earlier time and placed there. This assumes that Oswald did not shoot the rifle at all. Is there any information on this?Andrew Wilt Posts: 1Joined: Sun Nov 20, 2011 11:46 amPrivate messageE-mail Andrew Wilt

[Dealey Joe]

A 7.65 Mauserby dankbaar » Sat Jun 23, 2007 4:12 am http://video.google.nl/videoplay?docid= ... 5793686311 Roger Craig talks about the Mauser found in the Texas School Book Depository after the JFK assassination. See the news reports you never saw again after the lying started. See also affidavits of Boone and Weitzman: http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/04/0433-001.gif http://pages.prodigy.net/whiskey99/boone.jpgThe allies of evil are ignorance, apathy and the wish to not believe.

[Dealey Joe]

The Manlicher Carcano used a clip system called "en Block" charger clips that holds 6 rounds. however any number of shells can be loaded into the clip, in other words it does not have to be full to be used, when the last shot is removed from the chamber the clip falls out a cut out in the bottom of the magazine.

[Dealey Joe]

Now for what we have found showing in a couple pictureNotice the clip hanging part way out of the magazine. this has to be a Carcano.So we know it was in the TSBD along with the MAuser?Also it is not normal for the clip to stick out like that, it is designed to fall completely out of the gun?

[Bruce Patrick Brychek]

Dear Mr. Joe Hall:Joe - Tremendous additional documentation and research provided by you that raises even more questions for me. I am a firm believer in pictures of specifics where possible, as you know.This entire set of Posts and Headline provide a powerful discussion on this subject matter that lead up to Joe's recent research findings.Joe - Have you formulated any specific conclusions, or additional directions for analysis ? What are your thoughts generally, and specifically at this point in time ?Additionally, can anybody else provide Joe with readings or research on this subject matter past, or present ?And are there any articles or books on this subject matter in the recent pipeline, or being developed now that anybody knows of ?Comments ?Respectfully,BB.

[kenmurray]

In 1975 a maintenance worker on the roof of the Dallas County Records Building, located diagonally from the Texas School Book Depository, found a 30.06 shell under a lip of roofing tar at the base of the roof's parapet on the side facing Dealey Plaza. [48] The shell casing was dated 1953. The condition of the shell indicated it had been on the roof for a long period of time. The HSCA made no mention of this shell.Jim Marrs, in his book Crossfire, relates the story of Julius Hardee. Hardee told The Dallas Morning News that on the morning of November 22nd he saw three men on top of the Triple underpass carrying either shotguns or rifles. Whether these men were police officers or not is unknown. Hardee claimed he reported the incident to the FBI but no report about the incident has surfaced.

[kenmurray]

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[kenmurray]

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[RobertP]

[quote="Dealey Joe"]The Manlicher Carcano used a clip system called "en Block" charger clips that holds 6 rounds. however any number of shells can be loaded into the clip, in other words it does not have to be full to be used, when the last shot is removed from the chamber the clip falls out a cut out in the bottom of the magazine.The clip in your pics was standard Italian military issue and the "SMI" stands for "Societa Metallurgicalla Italiana". The SMI cartridges were the ones with the corrosive primers that lead to misfires from primer failures and blowback from firing pins piercing corroded primers. The SMI cartridges were a major factor in the Carcanos being known as poor rifles.The cartridges shown in the clip, with their spire point, are 7.35x51mm Carcano cartridges and would have been made between 1938 and 1940 for the 7.35x51 M38 short rifle.

[RobertP]

Dealey Joe wrote:Now for what we have found showing in a couple pictureNotice the clip hanging part way out of the magazine. this has to be a Carcano.So we know it was in the TSBD along with the MAuser?Also it is not normal for the clip to stick out like that, it is designed to fall completely out of the gun?JoeThis is indeed a Carcano short rifle, though whether it is a 6.5x52 M91/38, as claimed by the WC, or a 7.35x51 M38, cannot be determined from these pictures.What has always troubled me about these photos is the fact the clip is hanging partway out of the magazine. Below is a drawing of the internal workings of a Carcano bolt action rifle. This action and magazine was identical in every model of Carcano, including the 7.35mm M38.