George H.W. Bush Directly Involved in JFK Assassination???

[John Beckham]

"I'm just saying that if there are witnesses who said that George W. went missing and other witnesses said they saw him at that airport, it's worth looking into. I would never ask anyone to just believe something that's in one article that Bob and I read." Pasquale, to me, even if he was there, i'm a firm believer in JFK Jr's crash was of his own error. but, i try to look at it from both sides on all stories i find interesting. we all know that any answer you want to hear is on the info hwy. and i would hope that we all know not to believe everything seen or heard. me saying COME ON!! came off rather snotty, so i promise not to do that again. it's all about throwing things out there hoping someone gives you more info, answers a question or points you in a new direction, all in a civil way. another thing they teach you about single engine planes, is not to go over 10,000 ft. to avoid hypoxia. he was at 14,000, in fog, at night, hadn't had his license long, possibly drinking and pain killers. that's a powerful combo. just any combinations of the above can kill you.

[Pasquale DiFabrizio]

conspiracybuff wrote:"I'm just saying that if there are witnesses who said that George W. went missing and other witnesses said they saw him at that airport, it's worth looking into. I would never ask anyone to just believe something that's in one article that Bob and I read." Pasquale, to me, even if he was there, i'm a firm believer in JFK Jr's crash was of his own error. but, i try to look at it from both sides on all stories i find interesting. we all know that any answer you want to hear is on the info hwy. and i would hope that we all know not to believe everything seen or heard. me saying COME ON!! came off rather snotty, so i promise not to do that again. it's all about throwing things out there hoping someone gives you more info, answers a question or points you in a new direction, all in a civil way. another thing they teach you about single engine planes, is not to go over 10,000 ft. to avoid hypoxia. he was at 14,000, in fog, at night, hadn't had his license long, possibly drinking and pain killers. that's a powerful combo. just any combinations of the above can kill you.No worries. I didn't take your comment, "COME ON," badly at all. I just don't want you to think that I was trying to say definitively that JFK Jr.'s plane was messed with. It's just worth looking into. You know, like the theory that Jacqueline actually did have a Brawny Towel or Shamwow in her hand when she was climbing out the back of the car to clean up the mess. That's worth looking into too!!!! LMAO

[John Beckham]

Jefferson Davis Morton, scientist, inventor, in '59 was developing a new weapon to use against Cuba's navy in advance of the invasion to remove Castro from power. the plan was to drop a newly invented matrial near ships in an effort to strand them by lowering water depth in Operation Shamu. fearing it would also potentially interfere with the landing forces, the operation was scrapped. only recently has this material resurfaced as the Sham Wow.interesting note: what Morton never tested, or is even adressed in the commercial, is it's ineffective on fingerprints. just as Malcolm Wallace.

[Pasquale DiFabrizio]

conspiracybuff wrote:Jefferson Davis Morton, scientist, inventor, in '59 was developing a new weapon to use against Cuba's navy in advance of the inasion to remove Castro from power. the plan was to drop a newly invented matrial near ships in an effort to strand them by lowering water depth in Operation Shamu. fearing it would also potentially interfere with the landing forces, the operation was scrapped. only recently has this material resurfaced as the Sham Wow.interesting note: what Morton never tested, or is even adressed in the commercial, is it's ineffective on fingerprints. just as Malcolm Wallace.That's right! Now you're followin' me, camera guy!

[ChristophMessner]

Pasquale DiFabrizio wrote:ChristophMessner wrote:Bush doubleyou certainly does not have to take some days off to advise some plane specialists to manipulate JFK's junior's plane.Christoph, regarding the JFK, Jr. thing, you're assuming that, if he was there at that airport, he was advising on how to manipulate JFK Jr.'s plane. Another article I read, that I believe Bob posted, said that Bush (W), was with two Israeli Mossad agents at that airport. Maybe he was there just to help the bombers gain access to the airport. If you're Bush W, and people know you, how difficult would it be for you to gain access to a private airport? If you're a swarthy-looking Mossad agent, would it be just as easy to just go onto the tarmac of a private airport? It was just my assumption that Bush did not need to be at the airport personally and he must not be there personally, so that agents, maybe just maintanance workers, can work on the plane without creating alert. Pasquale DiFabrizio wrote: The same article (help me out, Bob) suggests that in order to really do business and be a part of the evil circuit that is made up of Skull and Bones types, you have to do something so that they have dirt on you so they can trust you. That's not uncommon even among organized crime and street gangs. They often initiate people into their ranks by having them carry out murders or other evil deeds to show their loyalty and trustworthiness.Correct. Pasquale DiFabrizio wrote: Why is it that people can believe that all those innocent witnesses were murdered regarding the JFK assassination, but they can't believe that the same circuit of people won't murder hundreds or even thousands without even blinking! The point is: murder OWN and INNOCENT people! I think people know very well, that people in power are capable to give order to mass murders very well, just by pushing the button, but they could not believe that they would "sacrifice" even thousands of own people this way in 911. People just see pictures on TV an react emotionally. A strategist like Brzezinski sees all people like on a chess game and calculates: better 3000 of own "sacrificed" and created a new common enemy to the superpowers: the terror itself, than leaving the Middle East to the Asians and risking getting nuked a decade later ... Pasquale DiFabrizio wrote: What about the witnesses who said they saw Bush (W) at the airport with two Mossad agents where JFK Jr.'s plane was? The "Mossad agents" certainly had big name plates on their coats "MOSSAD AGENT, NO CIA". Pasquale DiFabrizio wrote: Regarding 911, I think that Bush kind of allowed it to happen. I think, Poppy Bush really planned it with his sons and Sharon, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Zelikov, Chertoff, ... , because it takes a lot of planning to coordinate the acting afterwards. conspiracybuff wrote:i'm a firm believer in JFK Jr's crash was of his own error. Planes are the safest transportation vehicles at all. They have the lowest accident statistics. To me the fact, that politicians(-to-be) crash so overproportionally often in planes, is not just by accident. Ted Kennedy crashed before ... strange ...

[John Beckham]

believe me. if as many people flew as drove, the numbers would be different. an inexperienced flier on drugs taking off at night in the fog and going too high? everything is NOT conspiracy.

[Bob]

Speaking of the Bu$h family and plane crashes, forgetting about JFK Jr., Mike Connell and others, how about this one...From the book "Defrauding America": Much has been written about the role of the CIA factions in the assassination of President John F. Kennedy. It isn't the purpose of this book to go into that subject. However, the statements of relatively high- ranking former or present ONI and Navy officers relating to the JFK assassination are given within these pages for the reader to ponder. The Role of deep-cover CIA officer, Trenton Parker, has been described in earlier pages, and his function in the CIA's counter-intelligence unit, Pegasus. Parker had stated to me earlier that a CIA faction was responsible for the murder of JFK, and that Kennedy was advised three weeks before the assassination of a plan to assassinate him in one of three cities that Kennedy would be visiting. During an August 21, 1993, conversation, in response to my questions, Parker said that his Pegasus group had tape recordings of plans to assassinate Kennedy. I asked him, "What group were these tapes identifying?" Parker replied: "Rockefeller, Allen Dulles, Johnson of Texas, George Bush, and J. Edgar Hoover." I asked, "What was the nature of the conversation on these tapes?" I don't have the tapes now, because all the tape recordings were turned over to [Congressman] Larry McDonald. But I listened to the tape recordings and there were conversations between Rockefeller, [J. Edgar] Hoover, where [Nelson] Rockefeller asks, "Are we going to have any problems?" And he said, "No, we aren't going to have any problems. I checked with Dulles. If they do their job we'll do our job." There are a whole bunch of tapes, because Hoover didn't realize that his phone has been tapped. Parker had earlier mentioned to me that he had turned over a full box of files and tapes, documentation, and micro-fiche for the Pegasus operation in the Caribbean to Congressman Larry McDonald shortly before the Congressman boarded the ill-fated Korean Airlines Flight 007 that was shot down by the Russians.

[Pasquale DiFabrizio]

ChristophMessner wrote:Planes are the safest transportation vehicles at all. They have the lowest accident statistics. To me the fact, that politicians(-to-be) crash so overproportionally often in planes, is not just by accident. Ted Kennedy crashed before ... strange ...Right on, Christoph! I never thought about those statistics. VERY good point! They are supposed to be statistically safer, and yet these outspoken public figures seem to crash them all the time. Hmmmmm....

[Pasquale DiFabrizio]

Bob wrote:Speaking of the Bu$h family and plane crashes, forgetting about JFK Jr., Mike Connell and others, how about this one...From the book "Defrauding America": Much has been written about the role of the CIA factions in the assassination of President John F. Kennedy. It isn't the purpose of this book to go into that subject. However, the statements of relatively high- ranking former or present ONI and Navy officers relating to the JFK assassination are given within these pages for the reader to ponder. The Role of deep-cover CIA officer, Trenton Parker, has been described in earlier pages, and his function in the CIA's counter-intelligence unit, Pegasus. Parker had stated to me earlier that a CIA faction was responsible for the murder of JFK, and that Kennedy was advised three weeks before the assassination of a plan to assassinate him in one of three cities that Kennedy would be visiting. During an August 21, 1993, conversation, in response to my questions, Parker said that his Pegasus group had tape recordings of plans to assassinate Kennedy. I asked him, "What group were these tapes identifying?" Parker replied: "Rockefeller, Allen Dulles, Johnson of Texas, George Bush, and J. Edgar Hoover." I asked, "What was the nature of the conversation on these tapes?" I don't have the tapes now, because all the tape recordings were turned over to [Congressman] Larry McDonald. But I listened to the tape recordings and there were conversations between Rockefeller, [J. Edgar] Hoover, where [Nelson] Rockefeller asks, "Are we going to have any problems?" And he said, "No, we aren't going to have any problems. I checked with Dulles. If they do their job we'll do our job." There are a whole bunch of tapes, because Hoover didn't realize that his phone has been tapped. Parker had earlier mentioned to me that he had turned over a full box of files and tapes, documentation, and micro-fiche for the Pegasus operation in the Caribbean to Congressman Larry McDonald shortly before the Congressman boarded the ill-fated Korean Airlines Flight 007 that was shot down by the Russians. Hey Bob! Aren't planes supposed to be statistically safer than cars? Those darned whistle-blowers and outspoken politicians who go against the grain! They really should be safer when they fly!!! LOL

[John Beckham]

Reagan concentrated on the Russian danger as the fundamental issue in world politics. he won his office in part because he convinced the electorate that the Soviets had hoodwinked all Administrations of the last decade. he proposed to reverse the unfavorable trend of U.S.-Soviet power relations and, quite simply, to stand up to the Russians? ridaculed them for imposing their government on the people of Afghanistan. Mr. Gorbachev, blow up this plane!! oops, i mean, tear down this wall!! Afghanistan is ours to impose on! flight 007 and McDonald is a mystery. our military taunted the Russian bases on Kamchatka and Sakhalin with RC135 planes. did Reagan kill two birds with one stone? kill McDonald and make Russia look evil to the world?Circle Jerks "Paid Vacation" released in 1981 on the "Let them eat Jellybeans" album.I hope you're having funwhere's your uniform? where's your gun?better rub up that suntan oil'cause you'll be fighting in the desertit's not..vietnamjust another oil company scamsalute that flag of uncle samget your money out place your betsit's afghanistan!!fix baionets,check grenadesgot enough bulletsgot enough rounds to wipe out this place?Were the infantry & cavaleryparachutes fill the skie,bodies burn and people die