Robert Wagner wrote:I found it! Entering Israeli in the search box took me to a page containing this:"Evidence linking these Israelis to 9/11 is classified. I cannot tell you about evidence that has been gathered. It's classified information."-- US official quoted in Carl Cameron's Fox News report on the Israeli spy ring and its connections to 9-11http://911fraud.blogspot.com/search?q=israeliWe nailed 'em. We know there's evidence because an anonymous US official said so, and we know government isn't allowed to lie. That's all the proof I need. Following the link on that quotation took me to a page titled "The Israeli Spy Ring."
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICL ... ng.phpHold on, that doesn't prove Israelis planned 9/11; it proves, as best, they had foreknowledge. The article caught my attention because it gets into areas where I have personal knowledge."What Israel has done in return was to set up government subsidized telecommunications companies which operate here in the United States. One of these companies is Amdocs, which provides billing and directory assistance for 90% of the phone companies in the USA."I worked for Amdocs at its primary US operations site. I didn't know they were subsidized, so I looked at their annual report (20-F). No sign of subsidy there.
http://quote.morningstar.com/stock-fili ... a5e7f6aHow could they provide billing for 90% of phone companies when they don't have Verizon, largest phone company in the US before AT&T acquired Bell South? Verizon uses Convergys and a bunch of home grown crap. They once had 50 different billing systems. I read it's down to 5 now. Amdocs has 18,000 employees; Convergys has 65,000. "Amdocs' main computer center for billing is actually in Israel and allows those with access to do what intelligence agencies call "traffic analysis"; a picture of someone's activities based on a pattern of who they are calling and when. "That's funny, I worked on the main billing computer for Sprint, in Champaign IL. I also worked on the main billing computers for AT&T. They're out in the LECs -- the former SW Bell in Dallas, Ameritech in St Louis, Bell South in Atlanta, etc. Besides, what difference does it make where the computers are? Traffic analysis means statistics on message volume, not Usage Data for one customer. Yes, they do track calls to and from selected phones. Authorization comes from US phone companies, presumably backed up by warrants, not from Amdocs. I've worked with the tracking tables. There aren't any secret ones, known only to Amdocs. Sure, anyone with access can do an ad hoc query, I've done them, but queries are logged, and logs are examined by phone company auditors. Moreover, access to production data is tightly controlled. Amdocs doesn't have unlimited access, especially to Usage Data. "Another Israeli telecom company is Comverse Infosys, which subcontracts the installation of the automatic tapping equipment now built into every phone system in America." Nonsense. The "automatic tapping equipmnt" required by CALEA is software written by the central office switch manufacturer. About half of US switches are 5ESS, whose software comes from Lucent. The number two company is Nortel and number three is Comverse. More on Carl Cameron's "classified information":In two separate reports (A Fox News report and an article in Le Monde) concerns were raised in 2002 that wiretapping equipment provided by Comverse Infosys to the U.S. government for electronic eavesdropping may have been vulnerable, as these systems allegedly had a back door through which the wiretaps could be intercepted by unauthorized parties. In its article, Le Monde claims to have taken note of the whole script in this investigation. Based upon it, le monde concludes: Comverse is suspected of having introduced into its systems of the "catch gates" in order to "intercept, record and store" these wire-taps. This hardware would render the "listener" himself "listened to".. However, this suspicion has never led to a conviction. When asked "Are there reasons to believe the Israeli government is implicated?", FOX-reporter Carl Cameron admitted, "No, none, but a classified top-secret investigation is underway".In the eight years since the unverified Fox report of a "classified top-secret investigation" in 2002, there have been no legal or commercial actions of any type taken against Comverse by the FBI or any other branch of the US Government related to data access and security issues. While no real evidence has been presented against Comverse/Verint, the 2002 allegations have become a favorite topic of conspiracy theorists.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comverse_T ... tiesWhat's your point? Can you verify who you claim you worked for? Also, that report about Amdocs, etc., was from a Fox News special that came out years ago, so I'm not seeing the relevance regarding Verizon being one of the largest phone companies. Then you said "I worked for Amdocs at its primary US operations site. I didn't know they were subsidized, so I looked at their annual report (20-F). No sign of subsidy there."Which year is that "annual report" from? Was it during the same year that Fox did that news special report? Oh, and for the record, I'm not a "conspiracy theorist," so you can stop using that term with regard to people like me. It's insulting, and you know it. Are you Jewish, Mr. Wagner? Do you think it's coincidental that the American convert to Islam, Adam Gadahn (sp?) is Adam Pearlman who is Jewish? Do you think it's coincidental that the other convert, the east coast cab driver, is another Jew named Joseph Cohen? Do you think the "dancing Israelis" issue was made up as well? Do you think it's coincidental that organizations like AIPAC heavily influence both the major parties in our country? Do you find it odd that Israel is allowed to have nukes but other countries in the area aren't? Do you think the Lavon affair and the USS Liberty attack were made up?