WHO Shot JFK and WHY????????

[Pasquale DiFabrizio]

Alex Hidell wrote:Sorry guys- I am still waiting and NO ONE has yet established a clear link between JFK and 9/11.The mere fact that they are 40 years apart and most of the people who were involved with the JFK murder are long since dead, doesn't seem to deter you:(The more you reach and try to connect the dots the more you come off as a bunch of "conspiracy nuts".Sorry for the reality check but posting this kind of silliness demeans and degrades the countless hours of investiagtion put in by legitimate JFK reserachers who want to expose the truth once and for all as to the who and why of the JFK murder.You actually do a serious dis-servcie to the enitre JFK assasination researcher commnunity in making these outlandish, unsubstantiated claims.Pls reflect on your ability to make us all look like a bunch of "conspiracy nuts" before you contiue to publish this nonsense.It seems that you and JJC BRUINSMA are prone to using inflammatory words, or trigger words, like "conspiracy nuts" and "anti-Semite," and it looks like you two are doing it to try and discourage people from taking the discussions here seriously. It's very obvious to me what you two are doing. It won't work. There's really no trying to connect the dots here, and I've seen your type of arguing before. It won't work here. Did you actually read what I posted in answer to your question about connecting the "dots?" Shall I post it again?You see, "Alex Hidell," simply SAYING that something isn't so doesn't make it so. Using trigger words or phrases like "conspiracy nuts" and "anti-Semite" only serves to discourage people from reading honest discussion and factual debate. Shame on you. Also, not addressing what people write won't work either. So, for the rest of you, I'll post my answer again in my next post. ;D

[Pasquale DiFabrizio]

Pasquale DiFabrizio wrote:Alex Hidell wrote:Pasquale,Say you are right and there was media manipulation around 9/11-WHAT ON EARTH does that have to do with JFK, murdered 40 years earlier??????????????I fail to see how you are connecting the dots here, sorry.What I can think of immediately is that 9/11 was the cause of two separate "wars" that the U.S. has been involved in for approximately the last ten years. It's also my understanding that JFK, for example, wanted to stop the Vietnam war. In fact, he intended to have all troops out by 1965, so I understand, by the information I have seen. LBJ, the VP, completely reversed JFK's policies on Vietnam 180 degrees only two days after JFK was shot. That's what I have seen. The Vietnam war then went on for another ten years.Also, LBJ reversed JFK's policies with regard to the middle east, and in particular, Israel. I understand that JFK had a neutral policy toward Israel and the middle east. After JFK was shot, it seems that Johnson reversed JFK's policies on Israel and the middle east as well and started supporting Israel with money and weapons like we continue to do today.These are just two issues that I can think of immediately.Well, there is one more thing. It seems that H.W. Bush, "Poppy" Bush," had a hand in JFK's assassination also and that his son, George W., was one of the ones who was war mongering right after 9/11 and basically using 9/11 as an excuse to go into Iraq and Afghanistan. What a coincidence, eh? Do you see a connection now? Can you connect the dots now? So, those are just a couple of connections between 9/11 and the JFK assassination that I can think of without much effort. Here's a question for you and Mr. J.J.C. "Shalom" Buinsma.WHY ARE YOU TWO TRYING TO STOP OR DISCOURAGE DISCUSSION ABOUT ISRAELI INVOLVEMENT IN 9/11 AND THE FAKE PLANE ISSUE REGARDING 9/11?Do you two have an interest in discouraging this discussion? It kind of looks like you both are trying to do that. Why is that? Between the two of you, those topics are either racist or wrong or they have no connection to JFK at all, according to you two, and yet neither of you seem to be addressing the information at all. For the rest of you who aren't familiar with the topics I started on this forum. Here they are:Israeli Involvement In 9/11 And Spying On The UShttp://forum.jfkmurdersolved.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1261Strong Evidence of Fake Planes and a Media Hoax on 9/11http://forum.jfkmurdersolved.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2005I don't know if you are aware of this, but Mr. JJC also asked the same question you just did. I advised him that he is not the director of discussion here on this forum. Many others who read this forum can see the connections between the JFK assassination and 9/11. JJC "Shalom" Buinsma never answered my question. He then just started calling me names like "anti-Semite" without any proof at all. LOL Are you two together or something? JJC Bruinsma was the one who was praising your words earlier in this topic. Both of you also asked me what 9/11 has to do with JFK. So, my question to you is an honest question that others here are asking too.On another note, I stand by my suspicion that JJC is a disinformation personality. Why is he so protective of Israel and the fake plane issue? Why is he resorting to dishonest and inflammatory tactics to try and stop the discussion? JJC Bruinsma has not presented any evidence or discussion regarding the fake plane issue or the Israeli-involvement-in-9/11 issue. NONE. Can you imagine that? All he has done is call me names and post links to Youtube videos that basically make no point at all. Look at his last post. He is misrepresenting the information I have presented as well. In particular, he is misrepresenting the information I have presented as anti-Semitic. I suspect that he is using the "anti-Semite" trick because it's useful and inflammatory enough to try and get people to not look at the information and just dismiss it. He's not original. I guess you and whoever else can talk all day and night about Italian mafia, and you know that nobody is going to say that you're anti-Italian. You two can also go on and on about Islam and Muslims, and however racist you sound, you're pretty sure that nobody is going to accuse you of being a racist.As soon as someone like me presents valid information about an Israeli organized crime network or Jewish mafia, all of a sudden we're supposed to be anti-Semitic, according to JJC Bruinsma, eh? That's a double standard. He has presented NO real discussion on the issue. He can't even point to one example of me actually being racist. It's like he comes on this forum and calls me names like a school kid, but he won't actually address the information. That stinks of being a disinformation spook.Why would Mr. JJC Bruinsma, or anyone with him, do that? Why is he so protective of Israel and Jewish people? I'm not an anti-Semite, and my friends here know it. I even asked him to show me and the rest of us here where I ever said that Jewish people were bad people and why he thinks I said that. He had no answer at all. NONE. My opinion is that he is intentionally participating in disinformation tactics. He is definitely misrepresenting what I'm saying and presenting here. That is dishonest and insulting. It also looks like he's a liar who is trying anyway he can to push people away from the information I'm presenting. He doesn't impress me, and I can assure you that he is not really impressing many other people who read this forum. Are you understanding what I'm saying? I hope you are because there are a lot of people who understand what I'm saying.Here's what I wrote. Again.There are some serious issues I am presenting here regarding what you asked as well as what JJC "SHALOM" BRINSMA, and maybe you too, are up to here. Enjoy.

[Alex Hidell]

Pasquale,Pls show me one post where I have used the word anti-Semite. I'm waiting........................The fact of the matter is, anyone who makes a huge leap of faith and tries to connect 9/11 which occurred in 2001 and was the result of long simmering tensions between Muslims in the Middle East and the US, with the JFK assassination does a dis-service to the JKFK Assassination research community as a whole and opens that community up to scorn and ridicule from the outside world and rasies the risk of having the general public view this group as conspiracy nuts.I am not calling you a consipracy nut but if you continue with this nonsense of trying to connect 9/11 with JFK, 40 years after the fact, you are exposing all of us to that label.Sorry for the reality check.I suggest you start another board dedicated to the 9/11 attacks. This board, after all, is entitled Who Shot JFK and Why?? Is it not?

[kenmurray]

Alex Hidell wrote:Pasquale,Pls show me one post where I have used the word anti-Semite. I'm waiting........................The fact of the matter is, anyone who makes a huge leap of faith and tries to connect 9/11 which occurred in 2001 and was the result of long simmering tensions between Muslims in the Middle East and the US, with the JFK assassination does a dis-service to the JKFK Assassination research community as a whole and opens that community up to scorn and ridicule from the outside world and rasies the risk of having the general public view this group as conspiracy nuts.I am not calling you a consipracy nut but if you continue with this nonsense of trying to connect 9/11 with JFK, 40 years after the fact, you are exposing all of us to that label.Sorry for the reality check.I suggest you start another board dedicated to the 9/11 attacks. This board, after all, is entitled Who Shot JFK and Why?? Is it not?Last time I check Alex Hidell is not the owner of this forum and website. Sorry for the reality check.

[Pasquale DiFabrizio]

Alex Hidell wrote:Pasquale,Pls show me one post where I have used the word anti-Semite. I'm waiting........................The fact of the matter is, anyone who makes a huge leap of faith and tries to connect 9/11 which occurred in 2001 and was the result of long simmering tensions between Muslims in the Middle East and the US, with the JFK assassination does a dis-service to the JKFK Assassination research community as a whole and opens that community up to scorn and ridicule from the outside world and rasies the risk of having the general public view this group as conspiracy nuts.I am not calling you a consipracy nut but if you continue with this nonsense of trying to connect 9/11 with JFK, 40 years after the fact, you are exposing all of us to that label.Sorry for the reality check.I suggest you start another board dedicated to the 9/11 attacks. This board, after all, is entitled Who Shot JFK and Why?? Is it not?The fact of the matter is that what I said was that both you and JJC BRUINSMA used trigger words and phrases that appear to be intended to discourage people from taking discussion here seriously. The phrase you used is "conspiracy nuts" with regard to our discussions about 9/11. Remember? Do I need to quote you? Also, the fact of the matter is this. Just because you cannot understand the connections between the JFK assassination and 9/11 and other issues, doesn't mean they don't exist. According to you I should start another board dedicated to the 9/11 attacks? Why would I want to do that? So that the issues stay separated and disconnected? Separating the issues like they're not connected at all (when we know they are) does a true disservice to people out there who read this forum. So, your suggestion to start a separate board serves the opposite purpose for what you claim.The fact of the matter is that showing the connections and relating the issues to each other helps expose the larger picture for what it is. Keeping issues like JFK and 9/11 and/or even Nixon separate only serves to provide people with a partial reality and a partial truth. So, on the contrary, I think the information is more powerful when a person can actually see the connections. So, I'm sorry for that reality check.

[SLogan]

Jsnow915 wrote:SLogan.....sorry to correct you...but it was actually Ringo who said "I got blisters on my fingers"You are absolutely correct .I am humbled .The second I saw your reply I administered one dope slap to myself. I think I was subliminally distracted after looking at Bob's avatar and remembering his John Lennon one . I hope this doesn't tarnish my self appointed master's degree in Beatles knowledge .

[Dealey Joe]

SLogan wrote:Jsnow915 wrote:SLogan.....sorry to correct you...but it was actually Ringo who said "I got blisters on my fingers"You are absolutely correct .I am humbled .The second I saw your reply I administered one dope slap to myself. I think I was subliminally distracted after looking at Bob's avatar and remembering his John Lennon one . I hope this doesn't tarnish my self appointed master's degree in Beatles knowledge .I believe this puts you on probation.but given more thought I would say you are correct, it is actually Bobs fault!

[Phil Dragoo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMfkVGCU_BAPlease see 4:26 at the above youtube video: John Lennon, the unshaven man with steel-rimmed glasses, tells us, "I've got blisters on my fingers." John, not Ringo, utters this remark.The song title Helter Skelter brings to mind that fount of disinformation and insult, Vincent Bugliosi, author of, "Mein Krapp: Two Thousand Pages of Struggle Against Truth, Justice, and the American Way" who is thoroughly deconstructed by Jim DiEugenio in about two hundred thousand words:http://www.ctka.net/2008/bugliosi_review.htmlBugliosi is counting on Tom Hanks to save his bacon with Toy Deposit Story IV: How the Magic Bullet, the Easter Bunny, Santa Claus, and the Tooth Fairy All Really, Really Exist (Honest).Sure to rate five turkeys--same as Leonardo DiCaprio in Coup in Cuba Hits Iceberg, All Hams Lost.

[Bob]

Phil Dragoo wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMfkVGCU_BAPlease see 4:26 at the above youtube video: John Lennon, the unshaven man with steel-rimmed glasses, tells us, "I've got blisters on my fingers." John, not Ringo, utters this remark.The song title Helter Skelter brings to mind that fount of disinformation and insult, Vincent Bugliosi, author of, "Mein Krapp: Two Thousand Pages of Struggle Against Truth, Justice, and the American Way" who is thoroughly deconstructed by Jim DiEugenio in about two hundred thousand words:http://www.ctka.net/2008/bugliosi_review.htmlBugliosi is counting on Tom Hanks to save his bacon with Toy Deposit Story IV: How the Magic Bullet, the Easter Bunny, Santa Claus, and the Tooth Fairy All Really, Really Exist (Honest).Sure to rate five turkeys--same as Leonardo DiCaprio in Coup in Cuba Hits Iceberg, All Hams Lost.Phil...once again... BRAVO!!!Blisters on the fingers is better than blisters somewhere else.

[SLogan]

Bob wrote:Phil Dragoo wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMfkVGCU_BAPlease see 4:26 at the above youtube video: John Lennon, the unshaven man with steel-rimmed glasses, tells us, "I've got blisters on my fingers." John, not Ringo, utters this remark.The song title Helter Skelter brings to mind that fount of disinformation and insult, Vincent Bugliosi, author of, "Mein Krapp: Two Thousand Pages of Struggle Against Truth, Justice, and the American Way" who is thoroughly deconstructed by Jim DiEugenio in about two hundred thousand words:http://www.ctka.net/2008/bugliosi_review.htmlBugliosi is counting on Tom Hanks to save his bacon with Toy Deposit Story IV: How the Magic Bullet, the Easter Bunny, Santa Claus, and the Tooth Fairy All Really, Really Exist (Honest).Sure to rate five turkeys--same as Leonardo DiCaprio in Coup in Cuba Hits Iceberg, All Hams Lost.Actually the footage of that video contained in that link was shot in Twickenham Movie Studios during the Let It Be sessions (Note the maroon colored Fender telecaster that George is playing ). And if you're adept as I was at noticing Oswald giving a knowing glance towards Ruby prior to getting shot you'll also notice none of the vocals being put forth line up with the vocals of the actual song. Phil...once again... BRAVO!!!Blisters on the fingers is better than blisters somewhere else.