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Pennyworth wrote:Revising Rockefeller Drug Laws...Gov. David A. Paterson, who championed changing drug sentencing as a state senator and has said the issue would be a top priority of his administration, has dispatched senior members of his staff to work with leading lawmakers to draft legislation that would rewrite the Rockefeller-era drug laws.http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/04/nyreg ... tAppearing on my DN colleague Errol Louis' show this morning on AM 1600 WWRL, Assemblyman Sheldon Silver said in no uncertain terms that the Rockefeller Drug Laws have "outlived any usefulness that they've had" and called for dramatic reform. "This is the year to see that we can make that change," Silver said. "This is the year that we can get a fair hearing of the issues. This is the year, I believe, that there is openness to change."Silver spoke at length last week about the need to change the 1970s-era laws, which have been widely described as among the more draconian in the nation, although lawmakers did away with life sentences for the highest-level, Class A, drug offenders in 2004 during the Pataki administration.http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/dailyp ... e-all.html("In the last couple of weeks, the speaker issued his first position paper of the year on Rockefeller and blasted the commission report. We see those as positive signs.")http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/dailyp ... dr.htmlAnd Calderon faces mounting pressures on his two-year-old campaign against drug and gun smuggling. The campaign that actually touched off much of the fighting between the cartels. It has also exposed corruption that reached the highest levels of his government. Even a member of his security team has been arrested for allegedly feeding information to the cartels in exchange for money.When you step back and take a broad look at Mexico's growing carnage, it's easy to see why El Paso's city leaders think legalization doesn't look so bad. Mexico's drug problem is not the drugs. It is the illegality of the drugs.Legalization is not the perfect solution. But treating currently illegal drugs in the way we treat liquor and other legal addictive substances would provide regulation, tax revenue and funds for rehabilitation programs. Most satisfying, it would wipe a lot of smiles off the current drug lords' faces.http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articl ... _door.html

Pennyworth wrote:When you step back and take a broad look at Mexico's growing carnage, it's easy to see why El Paso's city leaders think legalization doesn't look so bad. Mexico's drug problem is not the drugs. It is the illegality of the drugs.Legalization is not the perfect solution. But treating currently illegal drugs in the way we treat liquor and other legal addictive substances would provide regulation, tax revenue and funds for rehabilitation programs. Most satisfying, it would wipe a lot of smiles off the current drug lords' faces.http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articl ... door.htmlI have to go with you on this one. I've felt for a long time that legalizing drugs would free up law enforcement resources to go after real criminals. Making alcohol illegal MADE guys like Al Capone. Making drugs illegal is making these cartels lots of money. I almost think that certain legislators are actually in the pockets of some of these cartels to keep those drugs illegal. It's an idea I've been throwing around in my head. If they can keep legislators and congressmen on their payroll and keep drugs like pot illegal, they stand to make lots of money. Am I making any sense? If idiots want to do meth, let 'em. If they start committing crimes, arrest them for those crimes. They can't think straight anyway. Pot, for example, is actually safer to consume than alcohol. You can't overdose on it, and you're less prone to violent acts (like back-handing the wife or girlfriend or picking a fight in a bar) if you're stoned as opposed to being drunk. Identity theft is one of the biggest or THE biggest, fastest growing crimes, and the police are seriously inadequate at fighting those kinds of criminals. That's just one example.

Reform On Rockefeller Drugs....Since their enactment in 1973, the Rockefeller drug laws have mandated minimum sentences for drug offenses based strictly on the amount of narcotics involved in the case. They do not take into consideration circumstances such as whether this is the offender's first arrest, and they do not consider the defendant's standing in their community. Before the 2004 Drug Law Reform Act, convictions for carrying four ounces -- or selling two -- of cocaine or heroin could require the same sentence as a murder conviction. The laws were designed to punish "king pin" drug dealers but tend to punish addicts and users. ..Caitlin Dunklee of the Drop the Rock Campaign pointed to a study by the Legal Action Center that indicated that wide-ranging reform -- fully restoring judges' discretion in all drug cases and greatly expanding alternative sentencing programs to provide treatment rather than prison -- would save the state almost $268 million a year. The study took into account the effect of sending addicted individuals to community treatment programs rather than prison and maintained that would drastically reduce repeat offenses. ..http://www.gothamgazette.com/article/Al ... 5/204/2820

Drug dependency and addiction should be viewed as a psychological and physiological issue , which translates into requiring medical attention in some cases if the situation gets out of hand...Do prescription drug abusers get jail sentences ?

Is this a joke? ABOUT THE ROCKEFELLER BROTHERS FUND Founded in 1940, the Rockefeller Brothers Fund encourages social change that contributes to a more just, sustainable, and peaceful world. The RBF's grantmaking is organized around three themes: Democratic Practice, Sustainable Development, and Peace and Security and four pivotal places: New York City, South Africa, Western Balkans, and Southern China. On October 12, 2006, the RBF trustees approved a new cross-programmatic grantmaking initiative on energy. http://newswire.ascribe.org/cgi-bin/beh ... 9&public=0

Nelson Rockefeller Lectures In Liverpool ...Although it was almost 30 years between Vietnam and Bush’s still-ongoing Iraq War, the banging of the beaten dead horse conundrum that is the war on drugs still sparks contention. Also in the Oct. 1, 1970, issue of The New Times (page 13), an article titled “Rocky Road Show” by Stan Pinkwas chronicled a September 1970 town hall meeting conducted by then-Gov. Nelson Rockefeller at the Randolph House Ballroom in Liverpool. Pinkwas stated that “The governor opened the meeting with a brief speech about his drug control achievements: 14,000 being treated under the civil commitment program... 20,000 under methadone care... $200 million loan fund... $99,000 for methadone treatment in Onondaga County... 400 addicts at Argory House... claimed a 45 percent civil commitment rehabilitation rate.” Reportedly, several chants of “Liar!” rang out after the governor made that statement. Describing one of the more impassioned scenes from the night, Pinkwas went on to report that, “Paul Hartley, a professor at Syracuse University, accused Rockefeller of neglecting alcoholics and adult addicts, of neglecting the barbituate and soft drug problem, of closing job openings to ex-street people and of generally operating with a ‘honky mentality,’ adding that the greatest danger a drug user has to face is the law enforcement agencies out to rehabilitate him or put him away.” For some contemporary perspective, we called Jeremy Klemanski, president and CEO of Syracuse Behavioral Healthcare (SBH). “You’d have a hard time finding too many people in the criminal justice system that think Rockefeller’s drug laws were and still are effective,” he said. “There’s a recognition that the Rockefeller drug laws have been the most ineffective public policy the state has ever had and it looks like the state is finally moving forward because they’re more willing to save money.”

Pennyworth wrote:Is this a joke? ABOUT THE ROCKEFELLER BROTHERS FUND Founded in 1940, the Rockefeller Brothers Fund encourages social change that contributes to a more just, sustainable, and peaceful world. The RBF's grantmaking is organized around three themes: Democratic Practice, Sustainable Development, and Peace and Security and four pivotal places: New York City, South Africa, Western Balkans, and Southern China. On October 12, 2006, the RBF trustees approved a new cross-programmatic grantmaking initiative on energy. http://newswire.ascribe.org/cgi-bin/beh ... lic=0David Rockefeller is planning to kill you - Gold & Silver Forum24 posts - Last post: Jun 13, 2008This video is quite a few years old - have you seen him lately . ... He's only 93. John D Rockefeller lived to 97. ...http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthre ... t=273333PP: He will be 94 this year

Pennyworth wrote:Drug dependency and addiction should be viewed as a psychological and physiological issue, which translates into requiring medical attention in some cases if the situation gets out of hand...Do prescription drug abusers get jail sentences ?The Heart Of The Beast...http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninsca ... he_roc.php

At THE CROSSROADS Of NAFTAThe Twilight ZoneOne result of this dreadful situation is that border towns in both countries, but far more so in Mexico, have seen their economies disappear. It used to be common for borderlanders crossing over to shop, dine, visit family and friends (on both sides), see a doctor or pharmacist (the Mexican side) or just soak in a different atmosphere. Now, from Brownsville and Matamoros on the Gulf of Mexico to San Diego and Tijuana on the Pacific coast, shopkeepers on the U.S. side see only a trickle of Mexican customers. ..Nowhere does the change in border dynamics appear more striking than in Ciudad Juárez, a city of about 1.5 million across the Rio Grande from El Paso. Juárez, which in recent years has seen a string of unsolved sexual assaults and murders of young women, was once the swingin'-est town on the entire frontier. Here, at the crossroads of NAFTA, terrific literature, quality artisan crafts, foreign-owned assembly plants and dance halls galore, the erosion of border life as it existed for generations is almost complete. Juárez awoke one day last December to learn that four policemen had been killed within a half-hour, one of them decapitated. It was the worst carnage of that week, but it numbed rather than outraged. Juárez experienced more than 1,500 homicides last year, which, along with daylight carjackings, occasional kidnappings, random street robberies and plain vanilla extortion, made for a population fearful of the new year. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... inionsbox1

The New Skid Row....http://www.lvrj.com/blogs/stutz/Wynn_fa ... lenge.html