Nixon's Bay of pigs remark
Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 10:32 am
Hi all,
This is my first post.
I have an interest in Nixon and a question regarding his relation with the JFK assasination.
Nixon tells Bob Haldeman in the "smoking gun" conversation to get the CIA to tell the FBI to stop investigating Watergate. To convince the CIA to do this he should say that the investigation will bring out the whole "Bay of pigs" thing again.
In his book Haldeman says he thinks this remark to the bay of pigs is in fact a reference to the JFK assasination. Later in a documentary (I think from the BBC somewhere in the nineties) Haldeman says he does not now what that remark means. But when he made the remark to Vernon Walters he freaked out and started shouting "this has nothing to do with the bay of pigs!!!".
Anthony Summers concludes in his book The arrogance of power, that Nixon always feared revelations about his role in setting up the bay of pigs invasion (when he was vice president), and perhaps just wanted to let the CIA know that further investigations from the FBI would lead to the Watergate burglars (the "cubans") and therefore also to The bay of pigs. And that this would be just as painful for the CIA as for Nixon himself. Nixon just send a message to the CIA that they had a common intrest to stop this investigation. This seams plausible to me.
And if this is not true, and his remarks actually did refer to the CIA JFK-assasination plots, why would Nixon not have used this more in trying to get out of Watergate? Nixon fought almost to the end to keep his presidency and would have done anything to stay in office. The only reason I can think of would be that Nixon was himself involved in the JFK-assasination plots and therefore could not use his knowledge of this against the parties investigating Watergate.
So, my questions are:
- What proof is there for Nixon's involvement in the JFK-assasination (before and after)?
- How do you see his remarks to Bob Haldeman regarding the Bay of pigs?
This is my first post.
I have an interest in Nixon and a question regarding his relation with the JFK assasination.
Nixon tells Bob Haldeman in the "smoking gun" conversation to get the CIA to tell the FBI to stop investigating Watergate. To convince the CIA to do this he should say that the investigation will bring out the whole "Bay of pigs" thing again.
In his book Haldeman says he thinks this remark to the bay of pigs is in fact a reference to the JFK assasination. Later in a documentary (I think from the BBC somewhere in the nineties) Haldeman says he does not now what that remark means. But when he made the remark to Vernon Walters he freaked out and started shouting "this has nothing to do with the bay of pigs!!!".
Anthony Summers concludes in his book The arrogance of power, that Nixon always feared revelations about his role in setting up the bay of pigs invasion (when he was vice president), and perhaps just wanted to let the CIA know that further investigations from the FBI would lead to the Watergate burglars (the "cubans") and therefore also to The bay of pigs. And that this would be just as painful for the CIA as for Nixon himself. Nixon just send a message to the CIA that they had a common intrest to stop this investigation. This seams plausible to me.
And if this is not true, and his remarks actually did refer to the CIA JFK-assasination plots, why would Nixon not have used this more in trying to get out of Watergate? Nixon fought almost to the end to keep his presidency and would have done anything to stay in office. The only reason I can think of would be that Nixon was himself involved in the JFK-assasination plots and therefore could not use his knowledge of this against the parties investigating Watergate.
So, my questions are:
- What proof is there for Nixon's involvement in the JFK-assasination (before and after)?
- How do you see his remarks to Bob Haldeman regarding the Bay of pigs?