POINT 1: JFK Covered up his first marriage:
"The two brothers had lied in their denials to newspapermen and the public about Jack Kennedy's long-rumored first marriage to a Palm Beach socialite named Durie Malcolm. In 1947 Kennedy, then a first term congressman, and Malcolm were married by a justice of the peace in an early-morning ceremony at Palm Beach. In an interview for this book, Charles Spalding, one of Kennedy's oldest friends broke five decades of silence by family and friends and confirmed his personal knowledge of the marriage. 'I remember saying to Jack at the time of the marriage,' Spalding told me, 'You must be nuts. You're running for president and you're running around and getting married.' The marriage flew apart. Spalding added that he and a local attorney visited the Palm Beach courthouse a few days later and removed all of the wedding documents. 'It was Jack,' Spalding recalled, 'who asked me if I'd go get the papers.' No evidence of a divorce could be found during the research for this book."
The Dark Side of Camelot, Seymour M. Hersh, p. 2 - 3.
Commentary: JFK consistently lied to the public, the media, and voters about his first marriage. Is ther proof of a divorce ? Was JFK a bigamist ? If JFK'S marriage was legal in the eyes of the law, was it legal under Roman Catholic Cannon Law ?
Also, as a Roman Catholic, JFK would have had to file forms with his priest and bishop, before his marriage to Jackie, stating that JFK had never been married, or divorced, so that JFK could be married to Jackie in the Roman Catholic Church ? Or did the Kennedy's pay off the church also ? Obviously, JFK was not above having an attorney steal his public records of his first marriage.
How many devotees of JFK honestly knew of JFK'S First Marriage, and the cover-up ?
Respectfully,
Bruce Patrick Brychek.
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JFK INVOLVED IN CIA ASSASSINATION PLOTS:
POINT 2: JFK was actively involved in CIA Assassination Plots:
"The president's files would reveal that Jack and Bobby Kennedy were more than merely informed about the CIA assassination plotting against Prime Minister Fidel Castro of Cuba: they were its strongest advocates. The necessity of Castro's death became a presidential obsession after the disastrous failure of the Bay of Pigs invasion in April 1961, and remained an obsession to the end. White House files also dealt with three foreign leaders who were murdered during Kennedy's thousand days in the presidency Patrice Lumumba, of the Congo; Rafael Trujillo, of the Dominican Republic: and Ngo Dinh Diem, of South Vietnam. Jack Kennedy knew of and endorsed the CIA'S assassination plotting against Lumumba and Trujillo before his inauguration on January 20, 1961. He was much more active in the fall of 1963, when a brutal coup d'etat in Saigon resulted in Diem's murder. Two months before the coup, Kennedy summoned air force general Edward G. Lansdale, a former CIA operative who had been involved in the administration's assassination plotting against Fidel Castro, and asked whether he would return to Saigon and help if the president decided he had to 'get rid' of Diem. 'Mr. President,' Lansdale responed, 'I couldn't do that .' The plot went forward. None of this would be revealed until this book, and none of it was shared with Lyndon Johnson, then the vice president."
The Dark Sid of Camelot, Seymour M. Hersh, p. 3.
Commentary: Obviously JFK had a history of using the CIA, and being involved in murders when it suited his needs.
Respectfully,
Bruce Patrick Brychek.
"The president's files would reveal that Jack and Bobby Kennedy were more than merely informed about the CIA assassination plotting against Prime Minister Fidel Castro of Cuba: they were its strongest advocates. The necessity of Castro's death became a presidential obsession after the disastrous failure of the Bay of Pigs invasion in April 1961, and remained an obsession to the end. White House files also dealt with three foreign leaders who were murdered during Kennedy's thousand days in the presidency Patrice Lumumba, of the Congo; Rafael Trujillo, of the Dominican Republic: and Ngo Dinh Diem, of South Vietnam. Jack Kennedy knew of and endorsed the CIA'S assassination plotting against Lumumba and Trujillo before his inauguration on January 20, 1961. He was much more active in the fall of 1963, when a brutal coup d'etat in Saigon resulted in Diem's murder. Two months before the coup, Kennedy summoned air force general Edward G. Lansdale, a former CIA operative who had been involved in the administration's assassination plotting against Fidel Castro, and asked whether he would return to Saigon and help if the president decided he had to 'get rid' of Diem. 'Mr. President,' Lansdale responed, 'I couldn't do that .' The plot went forward. None of this would be revealed until this book, and none of it was shared with Lyndon Johnson, then the vice president."
The Dark Sid of Camelot, Seymour M. Hersh, p. 3.
Commentary: Obviously JFK had a history of using the CIA, and being involved in murders when it suited his needs.
Respectfully,
Bruce Patrick Brychek.
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JFK's Rumored First Marriage
Bruce Patrick Brychek wrote:How many devotees of JFK honestly knew of JFK's First Marriage, and the cover-up?
I've known of the Blauvelt Family Genealogy assertion for over three decades. Regarding Hersh's supposed interview with Spalding, there is the following:
"Hersh's other discoveries all involve recovering snatches of lost memories from distant or defective witnesses, a questionable technique of reporting that he pushes to the limit of credibility. Consider, for example, Hersh's finding that JFK was a bigamist. The rumor began circulating in the extreme right-wing press in 1961 that in 1947, JFK, then a congressman, had secretly married Durie Malcolm, a Palm Beach socialite. Both JFK and Malcolm denied the story, and when it persisted, JFK asked Ben Bradlee, then at Newsweek, to investigate it. Bradlee determined it was a false story emanating from an error in a flawed book of genealogy (which even spelled Malcolm's name incorrectly). Some 35 years later, Hersh resurrected the story, not on the basis of any witness or document to the alleged marriage but on the basis of a piece of conversation that he managed to elicit from a 79-year-old Palm Beach resident, Charles Spalding. Spalding, who, though interviewed many times before over 50 years, never before claimed a role, now told Hersh that he knew about the supposed first marriage because he had himself eliminated the record of it at the Palm Beach County Courthouse, saying, according to Hersh, "I went out there and removed the papers." Presumably, in previous interviews after JFK's death, he had not remembered this extraordinary (and criminal) act. But how reliable is Spalding's new 1997 memory of this incident that supposedly happened in 1947? Before Hersh interviewed him, Spalding had problems with his ability to recall routine information, which Hersh generously describes as an "impairment of his short-term memory." Such a deficiency notwithstanding, this piece of recovered memory about JFK stands or falls on a simple test. If the 1947 marriage registry in Palm Beach County, which was then handwritten and bound, was marred or missing a page, Spalding's story could be valid. If on the other hand the registry was intact and the entries consecutive, Spalding's memory of removing the papers could not be any more valid than the forged archive of Monroe letters. As it turned out, Hersh and his investigators were unable to find any such gap in the marriage records nor, for that matter, any record of a marriage application, which had to be made three days before the ceremony. Nevertheless, on this piece of recovered memory from a person who Hersh knew suffered memory lapses and whose recollection was impeached by an investigation of the records, he asserts in "The Dark Side of Camelot," as established fact, that both JFK and his brother Robert "had lied in their denials to newspapermen and the public about Jack Kennedy's long-rumored first marriage to a Palm Beach socialite," that JFK's marriage to Jackie was not a legal union and that his children were born out of wedlock.
So this whole rehashing by Hersh is based upon the flawed memories of a 79-year-old man who suffered memory lapses, by Hersh's own admission.
http://www.edwardjayepstein.com/archived/hersh.htm
Tim
I've known of the Blauvelt Family Genealogy assertion for over three decades. Regarding Hersh's supposed interview with Spalding, there is the following:
"Hersh's other discoveries all involve recovering snatches of lost memories from distant or defective witnesses, a questionable technique of reporting that he pushes to the limit of credibility. Consider, for example, Hersh's finding that JFK was a bigamist. The rumor began circulating in the extreme right-wing press in 1961 that in 1947, JFK, then a congressman, had secretly married Durie Malcolm, a Palm Beach socialite. Both JFK and Malcolm denied the story, and when it persisted, JFK asked Ben Bradlee, then at Newsweek, to investigate it. Bradlee determined it was a false story emanating from an error in a flawed book of genealogy (which even spelled Malcolm's name incorrectly). Some 35 years later, Hersh resurrected the story, not on the basis of any witness or document to the alleged marriage but on the basis of a piece of conversation that he managed to elicit from a 79-year-old Palm Beach resident, Charles Spalding. Spalding, who, though interviewed many times before over 50 years, never before claimed a role, now told Hersh that he knew about the supposed first marriage because he had himself eliminated the record of it at the Palm Beach County Courthouse, saying, according to Hersh, "I went out there and removed the papers." Presumably, in previous interviews after JFK's death, he had not remembered this extraordinary (and criminal) act. But how reliable is Spalding's new 1997 memory of this incident that supposedly happened in 1947? Before Hersh interviewed him, Spalding had problems with his ability to recall routine information, which Hersh generously describes as an "impairment of his short-term memory." Such a deficiency notwithstanding, this piece of recovered memory about JFK stands or falls on a simple test. If the 1947 marriage registry in Palm Beach County, which was then handwritten and bound, was marred or missing a page, Spalding's story could be valid. If on the other hand the registry was intact and the entries consecutive, Spalding's memory of removing the papers could not be any more valid than the forged archive of Monroe letters. As it turned out, Hersh and his investigators were unable to find any such gap in the marriage records nor, for that matter, any record of a marriage application, which had to be made three days before the ceremony. Nevertheless, on this piece of recovered memory from a person who Hersh knew suffered memory lapses and whose recollection was impeached by an investigation of the records, he asserts in "The Dark Side of Camelot," as established fact, that both JFK and his brother Robert "had lied in their denials to newspapermen and the public about Jack Kennedy's long-rumored first marriage to a Palm Beach socialite," that JFK's marriage to Jackie was not a legal union and that his children were born out of wedlock.
So this whole rehashing by Hersh is based upon the flawed memories of a 79-year-old man who suffered memory lapses, by Hersh's own admission.
http://www.edwardjayepstein.com/archived/hersh.htm
Tim
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TIM CARROLL:
Dear Mr. Tim Carroll,
I will study your post more fully later.
Respectfully,
Bruce Patrick Brychek.
I will study your post more fully later.
Respectfully,
Bruce Patrick Brychek.
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Bruce: "The Time To Dump Tim Carroll Has Arrived"
Bruce Patrick Brychek wrote:Dear Mr. Tim Carroll, I will study your post more fully later. Good Counter-Arguments, Tim.Respectfully,Bruce Patrick Brychek.According to Bruce's e-mail, "good counter-arguments" aren't of any benefit in a moot court debate. The answer is to "dump" someone who's doing too good a job:dankbaar wrote:Received this yesterday from Bruce. I could not agree more. Dear Mr. Wim Dankbaar,I think the time to dump Tim Carroll has arrived, not for his disrespect to me, but for his disrespect to you, and what you are trying to do.Respectfully,Bruce Patrick Brychek.
So much for Bruce's Moot Court. I do hope that others will courageously stand up for the justice, or lack thereof, of Bruce's solution to his historical ineptness.
Tim
So much for Bruce's Moot Court. I do hope that others will courageously stand up for the justice, or lack thereof, of Bruce's solution to his historical ineptness.
Tim