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John Beckham wrote:Files (who is just his word) corroborated by Chauncey Holt (who is just his word) corroborated by Tosh Plumlee (who is just his word) DO NOT make a story valid. There is no evidence, photographic for certain, of the dozens of notorious people all three of these men say were in Dealy. these "stories" are well known. there is no conspiracy to cover them up. why hasn't the world taken notice? they did, then moved on....John,Why hasn't the "world" taken notice? Legitimate researchers like Jim Marrs and Robert Groden haven't poo-pooed the Files story at all. In fact, information that they have uncovered have only ADDED to it.Assuming you mean the mainstream media when you refer to the "world," they really haven't taken notice of ANY conspiracy theories. I'm just basing that on those bogus documentaries that have appeared recently with that sell-out Gary Mack and Dale Myers. Is that the "world" that you're referring to?

Bob wrote:John Beckham wrote:Files (who is just his word) corroborated by Chauncey Holt (who is just his word) corroborated by Tosh Plumlee (who is just his word) DO NOT make a story valid. There is no evidence, photographic for certain, of the dozens of notorious people all three of these men say were in Dealy. these "stories" are well known. there is no conspiracy to cover them up. why hasn't the world taken notice? they did, then moved on....John, you give NO mention of ZacK Shelton, a decorated FBI agent that investigated these types of activities, who seems to think Jimmy Files is telling the truth. As does Dangerous Dan Marvin who was in military intelligence. Files was connected to several people that were killed during the HSCA investigation on the JFK assassination. People like Sam Giancana, Johnny Roselli and Chuck Nicoletti. Experts such as Robert Groden and Jim Marrs also give credence to the Files scenario. Let me ask you this...do you believe there was a grassy knoll shooter? If so...who was it if not Files?There are also the shell casings that were found. Nobody knew, much less mentioned to the public, that there were teeth marks on one of the shell casings. That was discovered AFTER Files said that if the shell casing was his it would have his teeth marks on it because he was young and dumb with he bit the shell casing and left it there.There's corroboration from the House Select COmmittee on assassinations that placed one of the shots in exactly the spot that Files said he was in. There's also the picture taken just after the shooting showing a figure walking away from that position. So, it's not just their "word" that we're relying on. For the record, Tosh Plumlee, the CIA pilot also testified at the Iran-Contra hearings. Was he lying there too?

John Beckham wrote:Files (who is just his word) corroborated by Chauncey Holt (who is just his word) corroborated by Tosh Plumlee (who is just his word) DO NOT make a story valid. There is no evidence, photographic for certain, of the dozens of notorious people all three of these men say were in Dealy. these "stories" are well known. there is no conspiracy to cover them up. why hasn't the world taken notice? they did, then moved on....I am curious about one thing. Since you defended Gary Mack's position in the past, what IS your take on the JFK assassination? Please don't say you don't know. You should have some sort of opinion on it. Is it that Oswald acted alone?

[quote="Bob"][quote="John Beckham"]Files (who is just his word) corroborated by Chauncey Holt (who is just his word) corroborated by Tosh Plumlee (who is just his word) DO NOT make a story valid. There is no evidence, photographic for certain, of the dozens of notorious people all three of these men say were in Dealy. these "stories" are well known. there is no conspiracy to cover them up. why hasn't the world taken notice? they did, then moved on....[/quote]John, you give NO mention of ZacK Shelton, a decorated FBI agent that investigated these types of activities, who seems to think Jimmy Files is telling the truth. As does Dangerous Dan Marvin who was in military intelligence. Files was connected to several people that were killed during the HSCA investigation on the JFK assassination. People like Sam Giancana, Johnny Roselli and Chuck Nicoletti. Experts such as Robert Groden and Jim Marrs also give credence to the Files scenario. Let me ask you this...do you believe there was a grassy knoll shooter? If so...who was it if not Files?[/quote]that's not proof...

[quote="Pasquale DiFabrizio"][quote="Bob"][quote="John Beckham"]Files (who is just his word) corroborated by Chauncey Holt (who is just his word) corroborated by Tosh Plumlee (who is just his word) DO NOT make a story valid. There is no evidence, photographic for certain, of the dozens of notorious people all three of these men say were in Dealy. these "stories" are well known. there is no conspiracy to cover them up. why hasn't the world taken notice? they did, then moved on....[/quote]John, you give NO mention of ZacK Shelton, a decorated FBI agent that investigated these types of activities, who seems to think Jimmy Files is telling the truth. As does Dangerous Dan Marvin who was in military intelligence. Files was connected to several people that were killed during the HSCA investigation on the JFK assassination. People like Sam Giancana, Johnny Roselli and Chuck Nicoletti. Experts such as Robert Groden and Jim Marrs also give credence to the Files scenario. Let me ask you this...do you believe there was a grassy knoll shooter? If so...who was it if not Files?[/quote]There are also the shell casings that were found. Nobody knew, much less mentioned to the public, that there were teeth marks on one of the shell casings. That was discovered AFTER Files said that if the shell casing was his it would have his teeth marks on it because he was young and dumb with he bit the shell casing and left it there.There's corroboration from the House Select COmmittee on assassinations that placed one of the shots in exactly the spot that Files said he was in. There's also the picture taken just after the shooting showing a figure walking away from that position. So, it's not just their "word" that we're relying on. For the record, Tosh Plumlee, the CIA pilot also testified at the Iran-Contra hearings. Was he lying there too?[/quote]casings? i thought Files shot once? the picture, it could be anyone...that's not proof...

John Beckham wrote:casings? i thought Files shot once? the picture, it could be anyone...that's not proof...Files says he only shot once. He also said that he was only told as much as he needed to know about any given operation, as was usually the case. What's important is that he still maintains that he only shot once dispite the fact that two shell casings were found. Those shell casings weren't exactly found next to each other either. So, what theory or belief about the assassination do YOU subscribe to? I'm curious.

I'm also curious as to your original posting on this topic that you started. How is the other forum you're talking about different? What information are they discussing that we're not? Do they have the kind of "proof" that you're talking about?

You also haven't addressed the issue of Tosh Plumlee, the CIA pilot, having testified at the Iran-Contra hearings. Do you think he was lying there too? Do you think he was telling the truth there but lying about the JFK assassination abort team? It almost seems that you're just saying what you want without any clear argument.Are you just trying to creat bad blood here on this forum? The last time you came across like this, was when you were defending Gary Mack for being a sell-out for his job at that museum. You said it was just his "opinion." I'm still curious. Do you think Oswald alone?

"You also haven't addressed the issue of Tosh Plumlee, the CIA pilot, having testified at the Iran-Contra hearings. Do you think he was lying there too? Do you think he was telling the truth there but lying about the JFK assassination abort team?"huh? abort team? all you had to do was call off the motorcade...the story is rubbish.

John Beckham wrote:"You also haven't addressed the issue of Tosh Plumlee, the CIA pilot, having testified at the Iran-Contra hearings. Do you think he was lying there too? Do you think he was telling the truth there but lying about the JFK assassination abort team?"huh? abort team? all you had to do was call off the motorcade...the story is rubbish.So, in your opinion, Tosh Plumlee is lying?