Gary Marlow

[dankbaar]

Should I change the text: "Meet the real killer of J.D. Tippit", to "Meet the man who James Files says killed J.D. Tippit"On second thought I conclude that I disagree. Here is why: Gary knew about the confession of James Files when he lived. As a matter of fact , Jim has asked Gary shortly before he died if would have objection to release his name. Gary said NOT to release his name. Bruce made a post on the forum to this effect. Do you remember it? Otherwise I look it up for you. The question is how long did Gary know? My sense of logic tells me that he has known for a much longer time about Jim's confession, probably right from the start in 1993/1994 when press coverage started. If not by the press he would have been informed by his old associates and friends in Chicago. That means that he also knew about what Files said about the killer of Tippit. He probably has followed it closely, and was relieved that his identity was not disclosed. This is probably also what Jim referred to when he said he received pleas from other people: Please leave my name out it, Jimmy! Now, keep in mind that Gary's photo has been on the website since its inception in 1995. It's hard to imagine that Gary was not aware of the website (and thus his photo) for all those years. And Gary did NOTHING about it. If what Files says, would not be true, then Gary would have protested the allegation and he would have sued the people (Bob Vernon and later me) for libel and slander for putting his photo on the Internet and present him as the killer of J.D. Tippit. The fact that he did nothing, and even asked Jim to leave his name out of it, even after death, is an implicit admission that he was indeed the killer of Tippit. Wim

[Bob]

Keep it the same Wim. Yes...I remember the Bruce post regarding this subject. I agree with your assumptions about Marlow. In fact, I'll go one better. In Black Ops there is ALWAYS a spotter or a second man. Nicoletti had Roselli in the Dal Tex building and the umbrella man had walkie talkie man on the curb near the knoll (Orlando Bosch). I think it is very possible that Marlow was the spotter for Files, based on their close ties and their relationship. It certainly was NOT Lansdale.

[ThomZajac]

My vote is to change it. No matter how likely Marlow's guilt in the killing of Tippit, it has not been proven beyond a reasonable doubt, and so presenting Marlow's guilt as FACT is an overreach that undermines your credibility. Certainly it is fine to declare that you've reached the conclusion that Marlow shot Tippit, and you can present a very compelling case. Doing that, I think, would put your work in a better light.

[Bob]

ThomZajac wrote:My vote is to change it. No matter how likely Marlow's guilt in the killing of Tippit, it has not been proven beyond a reasonable doubt, and so presenting Marlow's guilt as FACT is an overreach that undermines your credibility. Certainly it is fine to declare that you've reached the conclusion that Marlow shot Tippit, and you can present a very compelling case. Doing that, I think, would put your work in a better light.What does a newspaper guy know?

[dankbaar]

I'll go with Thom then, and change it. As much as I love Bob, Bob essentially suggests that Files could have been lying about Marlow being his spotter behind the picket fence. Bob, why the fuck would Files surpress that Marlow was his spotter behind fence, but appoint him as the killer of Tippit? What is worse? Are you sane? Wim

[Rob Waters]

in the photo posted here the guy looks to be a good bit taller than Files. Isnt Files almost 6 feet tall? I know the descriptions differ from witness to witness but i dont remember anyone saying the guy was well over 6 feet tall. A guy that big would certainly be easy to identify. what are your thoughts?

[Bob]

dankbaar wrote:I'll go with Thom then, and change it. As much as I love Bob, Bob essentially suggests that Files could have been lying about Marlow being his spotter behind the picket fence. Bob, why the fuck would Files surpress that Marlow was his spotter behind fence, but appoint him as the killer of Tippit? What is worse? Are you sane? WimSome would say I'm not. Bottom line, Jimmy has suppressed some information that he knows about the assassination for whatever reason. Like the meeting with Ed Lansdale he finally admitted to a couple of years ago. I think there is NO question that Jimmy had a spotter. It IS the Black Ops way. Jimmy is protecting somebody, because someone was near him as he shot JFK from the knoll. If not Marlow...who?

[dankbaar]

"I think there is NO question that Jimmy had a spotter. "Well, Bob, Many assassination researchers have that. They think and they assume, and they can't accept, because it conflicts with what they think and assume. It's normal, of all times and part of everyone's life. If you one assumes the earth to be flat, try to convince him it is round. The first people who tried, were burned. Wim

[Bob]

Maybe you are right Wim. It is a mistake to assume. But...it also does not compute, using the words of the robot on Lost in Space that Files did not have a second person near him to protect him and watch for him. Files knew there would be some protection on the knoll, as in fake Secret Serveice agents etc., but in Black Ops, and in the examples I gave earlier, all the teams had at least two people. In Nicoletti's case, there appears to be a third person besides Chuck and Johnny based on the Altgens photo. The guy who had the best vantage point was Lee Bowers, and he saw LOTS of activity around the knoll.

[Rob Waters]

in the photo posted here the guy looks to be a good bit taller than Files. Isnt Files almost 6 feet tall? I know the descriptions differ from witness to witness but i dont remember anyone saying the guy was well over 6 feet tall. A guy that big would certainly be easy to identify. what are your thoughts?