Bullet Casing with Tooth Marks Manufactured 1971 or Later?

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Dan Allen
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Bullet Casing with Tooth Marks Manufactured 1971 or Later?

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The bullet casing found in Dealey Plaza attributed to James Files is marked in a way that indicates is was manufactured no earlier than 1971.Edit by Dan Allen:I need to correct my original post. I am reporting to this forum information I found on the internet. I do not know if the claim about when the bullet was manufactured is valid. The report I found appears that it might be valid, but I cannot verify it at this time.
Tommy Wilkens
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Re: Bullet Casing with Tooth Marks Manufactured 1971 or Late

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Interesting post. Please elaborate on this claim or finding !!
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Re: Bullet Casing with Tooth Marks Manufactured 1971 or Late

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Tommy Wilkens wrote:Interesting post. Please elaborate on this claim or finding !!Tommy Wilkens wrote:Interesting post. Please elaborate on this claim or finding !!The reason I am posting it here is to obtain help from this forum in evaluation this claim. Honestly, I don't care of this claim is true or false. What I care about is knowing whether it is true or false. I stand nothing to gain either way.In this post, I am going to post the crucial claim regarding the bullet casing found in Dealey Plaza, matching the description provided by James Files in the video excerpts that are public. This claim is not my work. It is work I found published on the internet at this link: http://www.manuscriptservice.com/Headstamp/ . In a nutshell, the claim is the dash between R and P on the spent cartridge from the Remington Fireball is too short for bullets manufactured before 1971. Specs for lettering on cartridges is provided in this picture. The length of the dash between the R and P was .040 inches until 1971. The bullet found in Dealey Plaza has a shorter dash, consistent with bullets manufactured 1971 and later. The link provided above provides more context and names of people participating in this analysis. Here is that link again. http://www.manuscriptservice.com/Headstamp/This is a picture of the cartridges found in Dealey Plaza, one of which is attributed to James Files.Remington bullets manufactured before 1971 where stamped with lettering in accordance with this specfication:Remington bullets manufactured before 1971 looked like this.
Tommy Wilkens
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Re: Bullet Casing with Tooth Marks Manufactured 1971 or Late

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Interesting.. Maybe some of the other Forum members could address this and explain how this could be ??
Bob Jonas
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Re: Bullet Casing with Tooth Marks Manufactured 1971 or Late

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I believe I saw somewhere that this whole deal about the shell casings being late 60s or early 70s was found to be false and in fact traced to someone trying to sabotage James Files' story. I'll dig around for it.
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Bob Jonas wrote:I believe I saw somewhere that this whole deal about the shell casings being late 60s or early 70s was found to be false and in fact traced to someone trying to sabotage James Files' story. I'll dig around for it.The claim regarding the spent bullet cartridge appears to originate with research by Allan Eaglesham. I found a discussion of Eaglesham's work on the spent bullet, beginning with a the post on the "Education Forum," linked at the end of this note. The linked post follows a question about the status of James Files's claims and a copy of several paragraphs by Jim Marrs, which have been reposted to the linked thread. Marr's paragraphs include s an account of his first-hand knowledge of the spent bullet, and his view of facts corroborating James Files' account of the Big Event and his part in it. Marrs also says further corroboration is required before considering Files's story proven fact. My perception is Jim Marrs's words regarding the Big Event are among the most reliable anywhere. I don't know anything about the Education Forum or any of the authors of any of the other posts in that thread. Here is the link. Unfortunately, you will have to paste it into your browser and remove the spaces after the http://http:// educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/23187-jim-marrs-comments-on-the-james-files-story-has-any-of-it-been-debunked/?do=findComment&comment=336753https://google.com
Dan Allen
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Re: Bullet Casing with Tooth Marks Manufactured 1971 or Late

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Bob Jonas wrote:I believe I saw somewhere that this whole deal about the shell casings being late 60s or early 70s was found to be false and in fact traced to someone trying to sabotage James Files' story. I'll dig around for it.Bob, I am sorry, but you appear to have a conflict of interest. That means you word cannot be accepted at face value without independent, verifiable information.SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, the sum total of rebuttal from this forum, hosted by the owners of the for-profit story of James Files, is zero.Pending information to the contrary, this site is hereby DEBUNKED. This site might be legitimate, but it cannot be trusted.
Bob Jonas
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Re: Bullet Casing with Tooth Marks Manufactured 1971 or Late

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Dan Allen wrote:Bob Jonas wrote:I believe I saw somewhere that this whole deal about the shell casings being late 60s or early 70s was found to be false and in fact traced to someone trying to sabotage James Files' story. I'll dig around for it.Bob, I am sorry, but you appear to have a conflict of interest. That means you word cannot be accepted at face value without independent, verifiable information.SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, the sum total of rebuttal from this forum, hosted by the owners of the for-profit story of James Files, is zero.Pending information to the contrary, this site is hereby DEBUNKED. This site might be legitimate, but it cannot be trusted.What I saw debunking this claim that the shell couldn't have been from '63 wasn't even on this site, so there.
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JFK IS STILL DEAD AND NOTHING HAS BEEN ACCOMPLISHED:

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Tuesday05.21.20197:00 p.m., Chicago, Illinois time:Dear JFK Murder Solved Forum Members and Readers:Bob Jonas correct, excellent, and precise as always.Everybody please remember that:1. The FBI leaked J's Involvement in the JFK Removal.2. J avoided relating to it, or talking about it for almost 3 decades.3. J has never made one penny ($0.01) from the sale of any of Bob Vernon's, Dick Clark's, Joe West's, Jim Marrs's, or Wim Dankbaar's Sale of JFK Removal Material.4. Over the decades several stories attacking J's credibility were all caught in their own lies anddisinformation schemes, including the ammunition issues. This is all circuitous, repetitive, andjust plain sill any more.5. JFK IS STILL DEAD !6. J is still alive, and nobody, nowhere, no how has ever proven him wrong !7. 56 years later The Disinformation Clowns, and 95% of The JFK Research Community are still chasing their tails and their tales.8. How come these Detractor's and Liars still can't put JFK's Removal together 56 years later if they know so much, and are such experts now ?9. J does not care about who does not believe his Interviews. J does not need The JFK ResearchCommunity. The JFK Research Community needs J.10. SO CAN ANYBODY, ANYWHERE, ANY TIME PLEASE EXPLAIN THE TOTAL STORY OF THE JFKREMOVAL HERE ONCE AND FOR ALL WITH ALL OF THESE EXPERTS SOUNDING OFF ? I DEFY ANYBODY, EVERYBODY, EVERYWHERE, HERE AND NOW ONCE AND FOR ALL !As always, I strongly recommend that you first read, research, and study material completely yourself about a Subject Matter, and then formulate your own Opinions and Theories.Any additional analyses, interviews, investigations, readings, research, studies, thoughts, or writings on any aspect of this Subject Matter ?Bear in mind that we are trying to attract and educate a Whole New Generation of JFK Researchers who may not be as well versed as you.Comments ?Respectfully,BB.
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Re: Bullet Casing with Tooth Marks Manufactured 1971 or Late

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Why do I believe J Files Story ? 1. The Warden believed Files Story2. There was 2 FBI agents who visited him in Prison without notifying the warden.3. Nobody knew about the Mercury Round4. Nobody knew Charles Nicoletti was in the Daltex building 5. Files was driven around deally Plaza and to the Gun range by LHO6. Files and LHO were both on the Civil Air PATROL7. Both Files and LHO had the same CIA Handler .8. Only Files knew that the gun used was a fireball, which wasn’t available until years after the assasination9. Files has the Diary from Nicoletti and Maps and secret service badges, and was beaten and Left for dead .10. Files made a video 25 years ago and gave info which no one else knew.11. Files was exposed by an ex Fbi Agent who said the man who killed JFK is James Files and he is alive and in jail 12. In the interview with Files , Files body Language indicates he is telling the Truth by Body Language experts. 13. A second attempt to Kill Files happened and when Files tried to defend himself he was arrested, the people who tried to Kill Files was 2 police officers. 14. Oliver Stone visited James Files and tried to get Files to help in the movie JFK and Files refused. 15. Had files made money from Oliver Stone or any of the books made I would have my doubts. 16. J Files did not make money off any of the for profit ventures that took place There fore my conclusion is that J Files is the Man who he said he is without any Doubt in my mind. If anyone has any info that differs please let me know, as there is enough proof to say Files was the Shooter on the Grassy knoll.
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